Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 20: Carlton vs St Kilda

[ElwoodBlues1]

And Macreadie too!

Forgot about MacReadie, thought he started his career ok in difficult times but then hit a flat spot. If you are trying to grow your own KP defenders it made sense to keep at least one of the younger ones on the list as they take time.

[townsendcalling]

Ben will never make it.  Just no internal drive.

A bit like the second Ablett son, Nathan.

[Thryleon]

Forgot about MacReadie, thought he started his career ok in difficult times but then hit a flat spot. If you are trying to grow your own KP defenders it made sense to keep at least one of the younger ones on the list as they take time.

He was the one I would have kept BUT he too was a glass man.

Knowing an Oscar Macdonald type was available it made sense to cut them all loose.  He's better than all of them. 

[WASurfer]

With respect to key defenders, IMO that mid-season draft should've been viewed as something to fill short term gaps/deficiencies....not pick a speculative type for the medium to long term. I know nothing about Jordan Boyd but would've thought we had his "type/size" reasonably covered and that a third tall was a better option given Marchbank was done. If/when one of Weitering or Jones goes down, as happened a few weeks ago, we have nobody to fill that gap...especially with McDonald also injured.

[jeza]

We need to win 3 of 3.

Freo have Brisbane in Perth, Eagles then St Kilda here (docklands). If they win all 3, they're in....but they're flaky. So expect one loss.

WCE have Dees in Perth, Dockers then Brsbane (possibly up there, otherwise here?) might win zero, might win 2. Win 2, they're in.

Saints have Syvegas here, Cats in Geelong, then Freo. Two wins at best.

Bombers have Bulldogs, Suns (up there possibly), Pies at the G. Two wins at best.

Tigers have North, Giants, Hawthorn - win all three and we win all three, they pip us most likely on %.

Totally agree with all of that. I reckon if we win all 3 we're still only about a 50% chance of making finals at best.

However, this season all of those mid-tier teams (like Carlton) have been so up and down that it is impossible to predict what will happen next. None of them are all that likely to go on a 3-0 run of wins - and certainly not Freo , WC or Rich - but who knows - we may as well have a crack.

[flyboy77]

With respect to key defenders, IMO that mid-season draft should've been viewed as something to fill short term gaps/deficiencies....not pick a speculative type for the medium to long term. I know nothing about Jordan Boyd but would've thought we had his "type/size" reasonably covered and that a third tall was a better option given Marchbank was done. If/when one of Weitering or Jones goes down, as happened a few weeks ago, we have nobody to fill that gap...especially with McDonald also injured.

Those mid season picks were bizarre.

[northernblue]

With respect to key defenders, IMO that mid-season draft should've been viewed as something to fill short term gaps/deficiencies....not pick a speculative type for the medium to long term. I know nothing about Jordan Boyd but would've thought we had his "type/size" reasonably covered and that a third tall was a better option given Marchbank was done. If/when one of Weitering or Jones goes down, as happened a few weeks ago, we have nobody to fill that gap...especially with McDonald also injured.

Agree, 6 month contract plus the carrot of a future contract for the best state league kd you can find V a mid sized hb/wing… I know what my pick would have been.

[DJC]

If Ben had no internal drive i doubt he'd be running around in the VFL desperately trying to get another chance. I hope he comes good. At his height there is still plenty of time up his sleeve.

Yes, there’s no question about his drive and the time factor.  However, there is a question about our player development ... again.

Ben is performing consistently in the VFL and is an important part of what has become a pretty solid defence.

[DJC]

With respect to key defenders, IMO that mid-season draft should've been viewed as something to fill short term gaps/deficiencies....not pick a speculative type for the medium to long term. I know nothing about Jordan Boyd but would've thought we had his "type/size" reasonably covered and that a third tall was a better option given Marchbank was done. If/when one of Weitering or Jones goes down, as happened a few weeks ago, we have nobody to fill that gap...especially with McDonald also injured.

It’s hard to fathom the thinking behind the selection of Boyd.  Perhaps there simply wasn’t an AFL-standard KPP available.

[LP]

It’s hard to fathom the thinking behind the selection of Boyd.  Perhaps there simply wasn’t an AFL-standard KPP available.

Yes, and as a player it looks like Boyd could become another Stocker but an even better kick, so I suppose they decided not the waste a pick on a low percentage chance that some speculative tall might come good.

Some of it will no doubt be dependant on what the long term plans are for players like Doc, Stocker, SPS, Williams, Martin, Carroll, Cottrell, Williamson, Kemp, etc., etc.. We talk about what might be their best positions or alternative positions, but we just do not know how that will evolve, the club we assume must already have a plan.