Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 17: Carlton vs Geelong

[Professer E]

Damn straight brother

[LP]

Worst part is, only 1 coach gave Weitering votes at all!

I've noticed this season more than ever AFLCA votes have fallen strongly along partisan lines.

[capcom]

Teague can't possibly be everything to everybody.  Nor can any coach.  Akermanis / Matthews but one example.  Malthouse and Hardie another.  We all can recall dozens of others, some quite intense.  Who knows where this "discovery" might lead?  One thing for certain .. players don't call the shots, save for Ian Stewart.  And with him, deserved

[PaulP]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/12/d...m-hawkins/

[LP]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/12/d...m-hawkins/

Hawkins is in his twilight era, Weitering isn't yet at his peak, as the years pass the outcomes will bias towards Weitering more and more heavily.

The guys at SEN are past players, they speak about friends like a players form never leaves them and last forever like some legend, but it fades just as they have!

[Thryleon]

Hawkins is in his twilight era, Weitering isn't yet at his peak, as the years pass the outcomes will bias towards Weitering more and more heavily.

The guys at SEN are past players, they speak about friends like a players form never leaves them and last forever like some legend, but it fades just as they have!

Hawkins has kicked 37 goals this season.  He's not exactly performing poorly or is yesterdays hero.

[LP]

Hawkins has kicked 37 goals this season.  He's not exactly performing poorly or is yesterdays hero.

That doesn't change the relationship, 2/3rds of those goals come from just six games.

For years people on here bashed Weitering as not suitable for playing on gorillas, for being soft, for being less than durable. At the weekend they talked Hawkins up as being a monster, and in the past he has been, but he barely fired a shot at stoppages and couldn't out wrestle Weitering or even the busted Cripps. Weitering is a rising star, Hawkins will still have some good games, but the trend lines are very very different.

Father time stops for no man!

[Thryleon]

That doesn't change the relationship, 2/3rds of those goals come from just six games.

For years people on here bashed Weitering as not suitable for playing on gorillas, for being soft, for being less than durable. At the weekend they talked Hawkins up as being a monster, and in the past he has been, but he barely fired a shot at stoppages and couldn't out wrestle Weitering or even the busted Cripps. Weitering is a rising star, Hawkins will still have some good games, but the trend lines are very very different.

Father time stops for no man!

Hrs currently 5th in the coleman.  You are having a lend.

Hes also had 15 less scoring shots than Harry who's first and only 11 in front of him.

Minimising Hawkins detracts from Weiterings good performance not vice versa.  It makes it less impressive to say he's not what he used to be.

[LP]

No, not at all, Hawkin's 33 next week, anyone who thinks he is still at his peak or isn't somehow diminished by age is not being realistic.

That is in no way diminishing Weitering's efforts.

Weitering will be 24 in Nov, he is 3 years away from his peak and has kept Hawkins goalless in a Cameron less game, where Hawkins was the sole focus of the Handbagger forward entries.

The outcomes of contests from here on as games pass will favour Weitering more and more and more, it's the natural progression.

The hypersensitive old men about town will assert I'm trying to paint Hawkins as done and dusted, but that perspective is a deliberate  extreme position born out of fear of aging.

Hawkins has good games left, just as Franklin has good games left, but there are less left in the kitty than those that have already passed!

[madbluboy]

Walsh was unbelievable and was the best player on the ground for either team.