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07-06-2021, 06:37 AM
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I notice Raducanu's retirement against Tomljanovic has caused a stir, mostly because McEnroe roughly implied to the Woke generations that they need to toughen up a bit, that life isn't a box of chocolates and if you want success against the best you need to learn to deal with the stress in competition. This came after the kid retired from breathing difficulties(Assumed to be hyperventilation/hypertension) Now I'm paraphrasing because McEnroe didn't actually say that, but that is what all the Woke critics heard.
However, as insensitive as McEnroe seems, I tend to agree!
Also had to laugh at Channel Nine news(The Dots), reporting on her pending match with Barty they described Tomljanovic as an up and coming next generation Aussie player. If I recall correctly Tomljanovich is 3 or 4 years older than Barty! :o
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Staging illness, faking contact, shining lasers in the player's eyes.
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It's just a epidemic of cheating in Euro sport.
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(07-08-2021, 12:11 AM)LP link Wrote:Staging illness, faking contact, shining lasers in the player's eyes.
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It's just a epidemic of cheating in Euro sport.
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I blame 99. She used a mirror to temporarily blind a bikie who was charging at Maxwell Smart in a motorbike jousting duel, allowing Max to knock him off his motorbike. Once the genie’s out of the bottle ...
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Novak is the GOAT. Rafa and Federer are fading, and don't look capable of winning another big title. The younger crop of players don't seem capable of taking the next step. Novak's W/L against the other two is superior. He's equal on slams won. He's still playing great tennis and more slams and the Olympic gold are well within reach.
Well played ND.
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(07-11-2021, 09:57 PM)PaulP date Wrote:Novak is the GOAT. Rafa and Federer are fading, and don't look capable of winning another big title. The younger crop of players don't seem capable of taking the next step. Novak's W/L against the other two is superior. He's equal on slams won. He's still playing great tennis and more slams and the Olympic gold are well within reach.
Well played ND. Is there a difference between a winner and a champion?
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(07-11-2021, 09:59 PM)LP link Wrote:Is there a difference between a winner and a champion?
He's definitely a champion. A flawed champion, a seemingly unpopular champion, but a champion nonetheless IMO.
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(07-11-2021, 09:59 PM)LP link Wrote:Is there a difference between a winner and a champion?
I suspect you asked that tongue in cheek... but I'll bite, Spotted One. Champion suggests winning over a long period of time and likely breaking many records along the way.
I'm with Pauly, on this one 100%. Novak is the best I've seen in my seemingly 10 decades on planet Earth, a whisker up on Roger & Rafa.
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I can appreciate where LP is coming from. Novak is merely a winner, and unworthy of the title "Champion", because of the medical timeouts, injuring lines people by recklessly hitting balls, party during covid etc. And whilst some of those antics are regrettable, they need to be viewed in a larger body of work IMO.
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07-12-2021, 12:23 AM
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(07-12-2021, 12:06 AM)PaulP date Wrote:I can appreciate where LP is coming from. Novak is merely a winner, and unworthy of the title "Champion", because of the medical timeouts, injuring lines people by recklessly hitting balls, party during covid etc. And whilst some of those antics are regrettable, they need to be viewed in a larger body of work IMO. I think the term Champion is too easily issued by the media, for me to be a Champion you need the whole package, you can't win on court but be an a55hole everywhere else and still be a Champion!
McEnroe winner but not Champion, Federer winner and Champion, Nadal winner and Champion??, Connors winner but not Champion, after her Naomi Osaka dummy spit I'm not sure Serena Williams is a Champion. Sampras, Borg, Agassi, Lendl, Court, Navratilova, Graf, Cawley, etc., etc.. Some are unequivocally Champions, some perhaps not!
I suppose if all fans care about is winning and not how a sport's role model will conduct themselves then they are all Champions, but it's clear then we as fans do not hold them all to the same standard. Which seems hypocritical when we lambaste them at other times for human foibles.
So I'd assert the Champion moniker is far too easily issued, winners no doubt, Champions well it perhaps depends on personal values.
We could make similar comparisons in our own sport, Barassi, Jesaulenko, Matthews, Nichols, Cable, Ablett Snr, DiPierdomenico, Flower, Bourke, Dyer, Williams, Silvagni, Lockett, Carey. All winners no doubt about it, some are the best I have seen, but all Champions, not by a long way!
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