Pre game Promise AFL Rd 17 Carlton vs Geelong?

[crashlander]

At the moment we are drawn to play Geelong. Don't know where, don't know when.
With half a team available, our chances do not look that good. But, as Gold Coast showed against Richmond, you never know what might happen.

[townsendcalling]

Cameron should be out.

[LP]

Cameron should be out.

 Not sure that makes it easier, especially after Hawkins bagged six, just removes a potential confusion for the Handbagger midfield!

[laj]

We're one a winning streak against Geelong of one in a row. If we win tonight then the game becomes really important.

[Macca37]

What channel is showing our game?

[Macca37]

All good. Showing on 503.

[RiverRat]

Very good spread of team effort against Freo with good or useful contributions from every player and reasons for retaining them:

Forwards
Harry McKay - the target was beaten against Freo but made the most of his chances for a change
Eddie Betts - still deserves his place in the team
Jack Silvagni - the hard worker
Jack Martin - lacks tank and intensity to play elsewhere but is an x-factor up forward - if only he could kick straight
Matthew Owies - does his bit - needs to continue doing so

Mids
Tom De Koning - the only ruck we have ATM - doing okay
Sam Walsh - our best player
Patrick Cripps - our former best player
Paddy Dow - finally on the way
Ed Curnow - still earns his part
Matthew Kennedy - better around the ground than in the midfield but midfield depth is very shallow

Utilities
Levi Casboult - necessary ruck relief who can contribute forward or back
Jack Newnes - was in Saints leadership group and has necessary strength, speed and skill to play on the wing or flank
Lachie Fogarty - hard at it but has yet to lock down a place in the team
Sam Petrevski-Seton - the jury's still out - except for the fact that he should never play in defence again

Defenders
Jacob Weitering - pillar of strength
Liam Jones - another pillar
Adam Saad - provides necessary speed and intensity
Liam Stocker - should now be an automatic selection but could contribute to midfield depth sooner or later
Lachie Plowman - panics too much on last line but provides flexibility to defensive match ups and is a good link player
Nic Newman - makes some dumb errors but generally a contributor who can keep Plowman off last line 
Tom Williamson - main attribute seems to be to provide another tallish option to keep Plowman off the last line

I reckon Williamson and the players listed as utilities are on the bubble when a better option becomes available

[kruddler]

@RR....
Hard to argue with any of that.

I reckon we'll have Williams and Fisher back for Geelong.

I suspect Williamson to be one out.
I'd keep Fogarty against his old side.
SPS needs more games in position.
Newnes is a seasoned body we'll need against the cats IMO.

I'd drop Casboult......but we won't.
I'd go back to playing Silvagni as 2nd ruck.

The Geelong rucks are too mobile for Casboult.
Stanley will dominate Casboult in the ruck.
Blicavz is like an extra midfielder the way he runs around.

TDK is a good matchup for both, but will need a chop out, so an extra mid in the ruck will allow us to run with Blicavz without flogging TDK.

[flyboy77]

Fisher should not come straight back in.....imo.

The week's rest should do Williams good - and the chance to work on improving his fitness.

[Gointocarlton]

Doesnt matter who comes in or goes out, this is the toughest assignment in footy, whilst we have won two in a row and Cameron is out, I give us virtually no chance. Dads Army are on ATM, I hope its not a flogging and we are competitive. If Crippa's foot is sore, I would rest him.