Post Game Frustrations: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS

[kruddler]

Sic em Rex...I mean Krudd!!

lol...
Newnes played what.....10 minutes as the sub.
Don't think he was to blame.
Not sure whoever else we bring in will be any better.

[Gointocarlton]

Interesting you say that GTC as I was listening to the radio this morning on 3AW at 7:25am, there is a jerno, forget his name and he quoted Scott Drapper from Essendon, who said that Dow roved to him during lockdown, in a scratch match that was organised between 3 clubs, Carlton, Essendon and the Swans. He said, of Dow, that he thought he was one of the better midfielders that he has seen and played with currently in the AFL.

You can read the report in the link below. O'keefe highlights Dow and Kennedy output.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/950567...atch-match

So is it between the ears or is it that he cannot bridge the gap between VFL and AFL like a lot of players who great VFL players but just cannot make it in the AFL.

Mate I am a bit of a fan of Dow's, I think we should persist with him and play him every week no matter what. His confidence will turn around I reckon. He has shown a good turn of speed which he can use as a weapon. He is reasonably gutsy for his size. His main area that needs improvement which is well documented is his disposal and goal kicking but with the confidence, they will come good IMO.

[Gointocarlton]

Freo will want a lot for Cerra....

Is he out of contract? Failing a reasonable deal/trade, we could probably wrangle a deal to get him in the PSD. Trust me, we will finish lower than where we are now so we will have a a decent pick, coupled with terms he nominates ala Jack Martin.

[kruddler]

Mate I am a bit of a fan of Dow's, I think we should persist with him and play him every week no matter what. His confidence will turn around I reckon. He has shown a good turn of speed which he can use as a weapon. He is reasonably gutsy for his size. His main area that needs improvement which is well documented is his disposal and goal kicking but with the confidence, they will come good IMO.

Agree.

With Dow you get glimpses of what he can do. A spin here. A sidestep there. A breakaway from stoppage as well.

Upside is more than most. Got no reason to not play him. Get his confidence up and there is 1 less mid we have to try and recruit.

[kruddler]

Is he out of contract? Failing a reasonable deal/trade, we could probably wrangle a deal to get him in the PSD. Trust me, we will finish lower than where we are now so we will have a a decent pick, coupled with terms he nominates ala Jack Martin.

I don't want to trust you, i think we can certainly finish higher than we are now.

BUT....

Do we want too?

Could we be tanking from here?

Announce a review.
No longer pick Murphy.
Play the kids.
Wins are not that important as the coaches job is deemed 'safe' for 2022..........or his replacement is already locked in.

What else would/could we do?
Keep Charlie in cotton wool.
Pick some more kids, Ramsay, Honey, Boyd.....

Be interesting to see what changes from here on out.

[Macca37]

I don't want to trust you, i think we can certainly finish higher than we are now.

BUT....

Do we want too?

Could we be tanking from here?

Announce a review.
No longer pick Murphy.
Play the kids.
Wins are not that important as the coaches job is deemed 'safe' for 2022..........or his replacement is already locked in.

What else would/could we do?
Keep Charlie in cotton wool.
Pick some more kids, Ramsay, Honey, Boyd.....

Be interesting to see what changes from here on out.

That's an interesting scenario.  But it could backfire  because if the kids bring enthusiasm and drive with them we could see an improvement. 

[northernblue]

Id be targetting sydney stack first from Richmond.

Go for blokes who have ability that cant get a look in.  Sooner or later youll hit paydirt.

Don’t we usually call that “recruiting other teams list cloggers” ?

[Micky0]

I don't want to trust you, i think we can certainly finish higher than we are now.

BUT....

Do we want too?

Could we be tanking from here?

Announce a review.
No longer pick Murphy.
Play the kids.
Wins are not that important as the coaches job is deemed 'safe' for 2022..........or his replacement is already locked in.

What else would/could we do?
Keep Charlie in cotton wool.
Pick some more kids, Ramsay, Honey, Boyd.....

Be interesting to see what changes from here on out.

Better bloody not be! Hasn’t worked in the past

Wins bring confidence and more wins! Get wins!

[Thryleon]

Don’t we usually call that “recruiting other teams list cloggers” ?

See Adam Saad, Zac Williams, Mitch McGovern and Jack Martin.
All talented.  All costly.  All under whelming in terms of output.
The Sydney stack approach is for a need we have.

Shaun Grigg was seen the same at the time, but he was valuable to Richmond.

[Baggers]

See Adam Saad, Zac Williams, Mitch McGovern and Jack Martin.
All talented.  All costly.  All under whelming in terms of output.
The Sydney stack approach is for a need we have.

Shaun Grigg was seen the same at the time, but he was valuable to Richmond. He was plugged into a better system. We have to admit that our game plan is not good enough... in so many ways.