VFL 2021 Rd ?: Carlton vs Port Melbourne

[laj]

He's hardly doing anything to warrant it.

It's a cheap way of getting him to 300.

[townsendcalling]

All of Boyd, Murphy, Cottrell, Williamson, SPS, LOB, Kemp were average at best.

Harsh on Kemp!!!! The fact that he’s survived a second match and getting some game time is a real positive. Don’t expect too much until 22.  Just let him develop!

[laj]

Just watched the last quarter and a half of today's match. You can be glass half full or glass half empty. I thought SPS, Casboult, Honey, Cottrell, Kemp and Carroll were good, Williamson, Murphy, Durdin and Boyd were ok, didn't see much of Ramsay, Mirkov went down injured and O'Brien just didn't get enough of the ball. Watching Murphy today I think his problem is that he has never been a marking player and now that he has lost a bit of zip he can't get to the spaces he wants to get to. O'Brien is good with ball in hand but he just doesn't get it enough. If you are choosing a wingman then you are choosing Cottrell ahead of O'Brien. Kemp Carroll and Honey are all players I would like to see in the firsts sometime this year and Kemp would definitely give our defence a bit more size. Casboult is clearly too good for this level of football.
I thought we should have gone harder for a bigger win but they haven't played for three weeks and they did lose Mirkov in the first quarter. I was happy with our young guys, except for O'Brien, and I thought Levi and Murphy showed good leadership. All in all it was a good result.

Ramsay not in Sydney?

[PaulP]

Our firsts team supposedly has fitness issues, can't run out games, and yet we have one bloke, LoB, who has elite fitness, and can run all day. Then take into account injuries. How crap / out of favour can this guy be to not be able to get a game under such circumstances ? And Matt Kennedy is another former 1st rounder who appears to be on the first bus outta PP.

[jeza]

I thought LOB was ok. Use of the ball is a clear level above others. If I had to promote either him or Cotterel out of today's match I would go with LOB.

Maybe his future is a Daniel Rich type. Being fed by his teammates coming off half back with his good ball use.

[jeza]

Murphy was a long way from dominant.

Carroll was the big news out of today though. Back to his preseason form.

[PaulP]

I thought LOB was ok. Use of the ball is a clear level above others. If I had to promote either him or Cotterel out of today's match I would go with LOB.

Maybe his future is a Daniel Rich type. Being fed by his teammates coming off half back with his good ball use.

My comments were about the club's perceptions of him, rather than mine. He just can't seem to crack a game, no matter what the circumstances.

[kruddler]

Carroll was good but I felt when Crocker touched the ball we looked like scoring and apart from his goals he also created a few for others as well. Not sure what the fascination with Boyd was in the mid deason draft?

I was obviously a big wrap for Crocker....things happen with him. Would've been my pick instead of Boyd thats for sure.

Having said that, Boyds kicking skills are the reason why he was picked up....and thats something we also need.

Crocker looks AFL ready.
Boyd 'could' be AFL ready. He could be one of those players that plays better in the 1's than the 2's. I'd make sure we give him a go before the end of the year.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I thought LOB was ok. Use of the ball is a clear level above others. If I had to promote either him or Cotterel out of today's match I would go with LOB.

Maybe his future is a Daniel Rich type. Being fed by his teammates coming off half back with his good ball use.

Missed a few targets I thought and his kicking isnt at the same level as Rich, plus can we carry another defender who doesnt play any defense on his man. We already have Saad, Williams and Docherty wanting that Houli/Baker rebound type role.
Reckon like the Tigers you can get away with two of those types only....

[ElwoodBlues1]

I was obviously a big wrap for Crocker....things happen with him. Would've been my pick instead of Boyd thats for sure.

Having said that, Boyds kicking skills are the reason why he was picked up....and thats something we also need.

Crocker looks AFL ready.
Boyd 'could' be AFL ready. He could be one of those players that plays better in the 1's than the 2's. I'd make sure we give him a go before the end of the year.

Agree.....Crocker would make us better and more dangerous up forward, its not just about his marking or smarts either he isnt slow  and motored away from an opponent today and gave Honey a cheapie goal.
I'm not down on Boyd and he has some qualities we need but Crocker could walk in and impact while I think Boyd is that type of player who would be a handy player in a good team.