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(10-19-2021, 10:27 PM)Lods link Wrote:I just caught a few games towards the end of the last season and thought that there had been a definite improvement in the standard.
It was probably more obvious not having watched for some time.
The standard of player skills has gone through the roof - in the first season, most of the players kicked the ball like your Mum did off the back verandah. Now, the majority are comfortably kicking drop punts and actually finding targets, and handball has improved out of sight. The very best (like Maddy Prespakis) have developed skills that are not too far behind the men.
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(10-20-2021, 12:20 AM)tonyo link Wrote:The standard of player skills has gone through the roof - in the first season, most of the players kicked the ball like your Mum did off the back verandah. Now, the majority are comfortably kicking drop punts and actually finding targets, and handball has improved out of sight. The very best (like Maddy Prespakis) have developed skills that are not too far behind the men.
I wouldn't go quite that far but there has been an incredible improvement in skills. I think that improvement will continue as the code-hoppers and later converts are replaced by girls who have grown up playing the game.
Marks are dropped, ground balls are fumbled and kicking and handballing lack the penetration of the men's game, but it's still skillful and generally very competitive. I'd say the skill level is close to that of elite under 15 boys and the tactics are quite different as a consequence. I enjoy watching our girls have a go.
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(10-20-2021, 02:46 AM)DJC date Wrote:I'd say the skill level is close to that of elite under 15 boys and the tactics are quite different as a consequence. I enjoy watching our girls have a go. Agreed, and I expect it to stay around that physical level for the foreseeable future, but with different tactics as you mentioned.
It's why I find it so odd that many refuse to watch, yet they might happily watch an u15 or u16 boys final. Interestingly I've heard quite a few anecdotes of senior clubs getting the introduction of a senior women's teams wrong, by associating inductees with the typical boys u18 or u19s. At that level the boys are already well beyond the physical capabilities of the girls, of course I expect someone will want to shout me down as sexist but that isn't really an argument against the reality of the situation but a tantrum against fate.
Many of us happily watch elite u15 or u16 boys, and I think the senior girls will be comfortably in that performance range long term while probably being tactically superior.
I hope I haven't been unfair.
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(10-20-2021, 03:20 AM)LP link Wrote:Many of us happily watch elite u15 or u16 boys.... We've watched the mens team for the past 2 decades and thats at about the same level. :  :-[
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(10-20-2021, 05:25 AM)kruddler date Wrote:We've watched the mens team for the past 2 decades and thats at about the same level. : :-[ Actually, in past years, sometimes I've gone to watch local junior and senior football in preference to watching Carlton or other AFL games!
But I must admit I find the recent AFL rule changes to be delivering significantly improved product.
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(10-19-2021, 10:27 PM)Lods link Wrote:I kind of lost interest in the women's comp and didn't watch much for a while.
I guess the player movement (who's playing for Carlton this year?)and the still unsettled nature of the competition (number of sides still being worked out) had a bit to do with that drop off.
It's hard to invest in a side when there's that switching of players and as new teams enter the competition there's a need for that movement to occur to bolster the new sides.
Having said that...
I just caught a few games towards the end of the last season and thought that there had been a definite improvement in the standard.
It was probably more obvious not having watched for some time. The teams are now settled with all 18 teams across both the mens and the womens.
re player movement, its been a bit of an exodus of late, but considering the amount of teams coming in....and the fact we've snaffled a few from elsewhere (O'Dea, Dal Pos..) its not quite as bad as it seems.
Harris is irreplaceable when on song....but she'd been very much a Fevola, but with slightly less extremes.
remember when Fev took off his boots late in a game? Remember when he refused to chase and argued with an umpire despite the ball being 2m away? A lot of people have forgotten that, but remember 8 goals against Mal Michael and Dustin Fletcher basically in a half. At the time, i was happy for fev to go. I'm also happy for Harris to go.
Perhaps now we can get some more consistency, and less reliant on 1 individual.....and very much an individual.
The Hoskings hurt, but their skill level was questionable and will now be replaced by the new generation coming through. Abby McKay and Mimi Hill offer the same hardness, but with an upgrade on skills. Possibly not the same level of kamikaze as the hoskings, but acceptable none the less.
Overall, i was disappointed with our off-season list changes, but i'm hoping the improvement in team culture (with no harris) covers the gap. I expect finals this year.
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....and as if on cue...
https://www.womens.afl/news/75057
The latest "everyone is flying" propaganda from the club.
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(10-20-2021, 05:33 AM)kruddler link Wrote:The teams are now settled with all 18 teams across both the mens and the womens.
re player movement, its been a bit of an exodus of late, but considering the amount of teams coming in....and the fact we've snaffled a few from elsewhere (O'Dea, Dal Pos..) its not quite as bad as it seems. Yep, it's settled now, but was still being worked through when I dropped off.
I'd like to think I can get back on board with it, but when you do lose interest there's no guarantee it will return.
But that's just a personal thing.
You can't manufacture enthusiasm.
Anyway, hopefully they have a good season...that's the best way to get folks interested.
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There's a good couple of pics of Maddy and diesel laughing it up. (not what i posted the other day).
Not sure what happened, but Maddy is helping diesel up off the ground.
Hopefully someone else (with insta?) can post a pic.
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