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Football Department Review
(08-25-2021, 02:27 AM)northernblue link Wrote:It also begs the question Baggers, if you have such a mindset for change, how could you have possibly sat on that board for 9 years !?
I would have been able to muster no more than 6 months at best personally !

You're right to assume I am not a change averse kind of human.

However, there are always imperative considerations first. 1) Is the proposed change necessary, ie, does it address a failure? 2) Is the person, company, review or Board competent to institute the change or changes and see them through to implementation and beyond? All change needs tweaking. 3) Will the ramifications from the change be thoroughly thought through with all possible scenarios (legal, HR etc.) comprehensively addressed and considered. 4) Does said change have buy-in/commitment from the 'top?' 5) Will the delivery of the change be respectful of all involved. 6) Will the rationale for the change be explained thoroughly to those impacted. 7) Will there be appropriate publicity to 'sell' the change to all appropriate stake-holders and beyond? 8) Will there be a detailed assessment of the change, say, 6 months later?

I made these up on the hop and may have missed an important step or two. Just couldn't be bothered going back over my 'old' Chairman / CEO notes... and those when I was later a consultant. Ah, them thar the days!
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(08-25-2021, 01:51 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Ah, the world of mixed messages... or should I say, mixed assumptions.

The media is having a field day with this, with opinions flying about all over the place. Opinions based on rumour and speculation.

Very impressed that the club is sticking with its process/agenda/timing and not jumping about trying to respond to the media's agenda/pressure & sensational needs.

Personally more than happy to wait until things actually happen rather than speculate, 2nd guess and jump at shadows.

Major change takes time and though unfortunate, even sad, there will be casualties and they won't be happy.

This!!

So many people going on about how incompetent the Board is, as they keep changing their minds.  They dont keep changing thier minds - the media's b*llshit keeps changing. 

Ross Lyon appoints himself coach in the media (CFC says nothing).  Media decides Lyon not suitable for a few reasons (CFC says nothing).  CFC gets skewered for changing its mind and hanging Ross out to dry.    Media has no idea what is going on behind closed doors, but that hasnt stopped everyone assuming every thing they say is correct, and potting the Board because of it.

I actually think they have done a good job of a) sticking to the plan and b) not leaking
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It's not about the media, it is absolutely about the Board. Look around and tell me which of the other 17 clubs behave this way. Which of the other 17 clubs have a track record as bad as ours ? Which of the other 17 clubs treat their senior coach like this ?

It's a disgrace, and it has nothing to do with the media.
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(08-25-2021, 03:14 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:This!!

So many people going on about how incompetent the Board is, as they keep changing their minds.  They dont keep changing thier minds - the media's b*llcrap keeps changing. 

Ross Lyon appoints himself coach in the media (CFC says nothing).  Media decides Lyon not suitable for a few reasons (CFC says nothing).  CFC gets skewered for changing its mind and hanging Ross out to dry.    Media has no idea what is going on behind closed doors, but that hasnt stopped everyone assuming every thing they say is correct, and potting the Board because of it.

I actually think they have done a good job of a) sticking to the plan and b) not leaking

The clubs silence is deafening and speaks volumes for its ineptness.
Whilst silence can be a good thing, it must be in context and in the current context that strategy is wrong… as we are witnessing.
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(08-25-2021, 03:14 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:This!!

So many people going on about how incompetent the Board is, as they keep changing their minds.  They dont keep changing thier minds - the media's b*llcrap keeps changing. 

Ross Lyon appoints himself coach in the media (CFC says nothing).  Media decides Lyon not suitable for a few reasons (CFC says nothing).  CFC gets skewered for changing its mind and hanging Ross out to dry.    Media has no idea what is going on behind closed doors, but that hasnt stopped everyone assuming every thing they say is correct, and potting the Board because of it.

I actually think they have done a good job of a) sticking to the plan and b) not leaking
All of that is fair enough, but you are ignoring a few things that are getting on peoples nerves.

1. This board started a review mid-season which no doubt had an effect on the way the football department ran.
2. This board sacked Barker 2 days after the review was announced (clearly not finished yet) because he said he was not going to be around next year.
3. This board sacked Bolton and appointed Teague.
4. This board sacked Malthouse and appointed Bolton.
5. This board sacked Ratten and appointed Malthouse.
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(08-25-2021, 03:19 AM)PaulP link Wrote:It's not about the media, it is absolutely about the Board. Look around and tell me which of the other 17 clubs behave this way. Which of the other 17 clubs have a track record as bad as ours ? Which of the other 17 clubs treat their senior coach like this ?

It's a disgrace, and it has nothing to do with the media.

Just about every club through the decades has had periods as bad, or even worse, than ours. Unfortunately, ours is now and ours is the most recent to fail to adapt/made populist changes driven by fear and ineptitude.

This whole review, which I suspected and said as much previously, could very well expose crevices in our Board and the backlack might just see the demise of many on our Board. Good. Sayers has a helluva job on his hands presently.
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Wrapped to just learn that Clarko will NOT be coaching us next year. This is from my biased, and subjective mental health perspective. He is doing the right thing by himself and his family.

He may, still, take another less stressful role at another club, of course. Or just go fishing.
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(08-25-2021, 03:30 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Just about every club through the decades has had periods as bad, or even worse, than ours. Unfortunately, ours is now and ours is the most recent to fail to adapt/made populist changes driven by fear and ineptitude.

This whole review, which I suspected and said as much previously, could very well expose crevices in our Board and the backlack might just see the demise of many on our Board. Good. Sayers has a helluva job on his hands presently.

I'm still not sure why you think Sayers is separate to the rest of the Board ? He is IMO part of the problem. The only way he isn't part of the problem is if he is some kind of lone voice in the wilderness, the only sensible one there who is constantly outvoted and outmuscled by his more incompetent brethren. Which I somehow doubt.
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(08-25-2021, 03:34 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I'm still not sure why you think Sayers is separate to the rest of the Board ? He is IMO part of the problem. The only way he isn't part of the problem is if he is some kind of lone voice in the wilderness, the only sensible one there who is constantly outvoted and outmuscled by his more incompetent brethren. Which I somehow doubt.

I only hold out hope due to his reputation and how he has instituted a more structured process. We'll know very soon, I suspect, if he is the man for the job. He, at least, deserves a go. If what he institutes shortly is a ballsup, then there will no doubt be a spill at the EGM. But for now, patience is the key.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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(08-25-2021, 03:40 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I only hold out hope due to his reputation and how he has instituted a more structured process. We'll know very soon, I suspect, if he is the man for the job. He, at least, deserves a go. If what he institutes shortly is a ballsup, then there will no doubt be a spill at the EGM. But for now, patience is the key.

For now sadly, there is no other choice…
Let’s go BIG !
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