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Football Department Review
Caroline Wilson was saying a long way out, and before the review was announced, that Teague would be sacked and Clarkson would be installed as Coach for 2022 despite both being contracted to the end of 2022 by their respective Clubs. Clearly she was being briefed by certain Board Members or certain Board Members were talking to people who then were talking to Wilson. The old plausible deniability ploy. The actions of these 'Faceless Men', and they will be men, to undermine the clear agreed strategy of the Club, undermine the Coach and undermine the team's performance throughout 2021 is a disgrace. The review was always a thinly designed process to engineer this scenario. The problem is that Clarkson does not seem to have committed to this process.
We have been down this scenario before. A jaded supercoach forced out by a egotistical President who wanted his own choice as Coach coming to Carlton to put the finishing touches on a list that was primed to potentially win a Premiership. We all know how that worked out.
I have been quite happy with LaGiudice as President. The year before he became president he gave a presentation basically setting out his vision for the Club to the AGM. In his term, the playing list has been rebuilt, the Football Department has been restructured, a Carlton AFLW team was selected to be part of the inaugural season which was far from being a certainty, Membership numbers have increased dramatically, debt has been eliminated and Princes Park has been redeveloped and now has facilities that a high performance professional sporting organisation should have. However the on field team performance have been less than satisfactory.
I do not know what Luke Sayer stands for. I do not know what his vision is for the Club and I do not know what his values are and whether they align with the stated values of the Club, particularly around 'Respect'. He didn't stand up for Teague or the Football Department at anytime through the announcement of the Review to its conclusion. If as I suspect, he and his supporters were involved in the backgrounding of the media and the undermining of the agreed positions of the Board, Teague has a Contract for 2022 which was signed off by the Board, then clearly he is untrustworthy. As this has all been done through anonymity, smoke and mirrors, then to me he lacks courage and honesty.
The whole process has been a farce. I have pondered this for a long time. Over the past twenty years we have had players, we have had coaches, we have had CEO's, we have had Football Managers, but it is now clear to me what we have lacked are Boards and Board Members that have not been able to develop a process whereby they can develop an agreed strategy they are willing and able to stick to and have not demonstrated the capability to work through problems when they arise in a constructive coherent and honest manner. We are consistently getting people on the Board who are unable to control their egos, keep diverging from the plan, seek simple and short term solutions and are unwilling to take responsibility for any failure by engaging in blame shifting. The good ones just get out.

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(08-24-2021, 06:42 AM)Blue Moon date Wrote:Caroline Wilson was saying a long way out, and before the review was announced, that Teague would be sacked and Clarkson would be installed as Coach for 2022 despite both being contracted to the end of 2022 by their respective Clubs. Clearly she was being briefed by certain Board Members or certain Board Members were talking to people who then were talking to Wilson. The old plausible deniability ploy. The actions of these 'Faceless Men', and they will be men, to undermine the clear agreed strategy of the Club, undermine the Coach and undermine the team's performance throughout 2021 is a disgrace. The review was always a thinly designed process to engineer this scenario. The problem is that Clarkson does not seem to have committed to this process.
That's a post or posts like it that have been circulating a while in different forms on different forums, it's been pushed a bit on Talking Carlton.

But it is basically a conflagration of two very separate issues surrounding Judd's training wheels comment and the Kennett Clarkson dispute. I'm not sure at which point someone merged them deliberately if it was even deliberate.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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I am not sure what you mean LP
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(08-24-2021, 07:16 AM)Blue Moon date Wrote:I am not sure what you mean LP
It was a hypothesis based on Judd's Teague training wheels comment, that Teague would be gone by seasons end, and the dispute between Kennett and Clarkson that suggests Clarkson's tenure was coming to an end. So the natural conflagration is Teague out Clarkson in.

The idea is hasn't gone to plan is bogus, because there was never a plan in the first place, it wasn't presented simultaneously, the initial claims that Teague would be gone and Clarkson would be gone were months apart. Now some are trying to paint it as a unified master plan leaked to the media!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(08-24-2021, 12:11 AM)LP link Wrote:Here is my wash up, based on the surfacing rumours there are some irrevocable conclusions even if only a small small percentage of it is true;

- Teague can't be coach.
- Cripps and Doc can't be captains.
- Liddle has been asleep at the wheel.
- Brad Lloyd is gone.
- Some big name players will be lost.

Care to elaborate onĀ  which big name players will be lost???
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LP, I have a different memory. My memory is Wilson stating that her Carlton sources have said that Teague will not be coaching Carlton next year and Clarkson would be. Nothing to do with training wheels. It was all about her reporting the belief of some people at Carlton that Carlton needs and should have a big name Coaching their team. So I stick by my belief their was a plan to engineer the removal of Teague and have him replaced by Clarkson. Just because the plan seems to have hit a snag because Clarkson wasn't and isn't on board yet, doesn't mean there wasn't a plan.
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(08-24-2021, 08:54 AM)Blue Moon link Wrote:LP, I have a different memory. My memory is Wilson stating that her Carlton sources have said that Teague will not be coaching Carlton next year and Clarkson would be. Nothing to do with training wheels. It was all about her reporting the belief of some people at Carlton that Carlton needs and should have a big name Coaching their team. So I stick by my belief their was a plan to engineer the removal of Teague and have him replaced by Clarkson. Just because the plan seems to have hit a snag because Clarkson wasn't and isn't on board yet, doesn't mean there wasn't a plan.
Caro brings up the training wheels comment as often as she can.

She may not have mentioned it when she said what you've said above, but she says it so often it goes without saying.
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I'll put this here because if we're looking at a few changes this is one of those who needs a promotion.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/100789...sqcZ--_1l0
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(08-24-2021, 10:02 AM)Lods link Wrote:I'll put this here because if we're looking at a few changes this is one of those who needs a promotion.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/100789...sqcZ--_1l0

I do like the sub heading, which refers to it as an "extended chat." 3.48. Wow. Us oldies are still clearing our throats at the 3 min 48 sec mark lol.

Ah, the kids of today.
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Absolute crap show what's going on at the moment. How can the board, in good conscience, leave Teague hanging out to dry while they are actively white-anting him - not even behind his back, but in plain sight. Effectively asking him to hang around while we bring in your replacement! A circus.

Teague has every right to tell them to GAGF.

Perhaps 'in good conscience' is actually their problem. They don't know what one is. Thrown good money after bad at problems and hope they go away for years.

Biggest problem is that this club does not belong to the members. Benefactors own it. It's been at the whim of the Pratt's and Mathieson's for years. They are the cancer that poisons the place.

The club must return to the members.
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