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(08-17-2021, 12:13 AM)Milhanna13 date Wrote:I think we all agreed a review needed to occur. The review was supposed to be club wide, but was it?
If it wasn't club wide did it really target the root of the problem or just ignore it?
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(08-17-2021, 12:28 AM)LP link Wrote:The review was supposed to be club wide, but was it?
If it wasn't club wide did it really target the root of the problem or just ignore it?
If the Board and Executive had any balls, the review had to be club wide, and they should have used the same mob that Richmond used.
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Further to my previous post, focussing on one department creates an us and them situation - just more disunity IMO.
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From the new president:
Quote:This process [the review] is now reaching its final stages and I assure you we will not be making any public comment until we have directly communicated with you, our members. This will include providing you with the summarised findings of the review that I know members have a deep and justified interest in.
I think that might deflate a few in the media :
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(08-16-2021, 06:26 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:So, hang-on, we all go on, on here, about the poor development of players, the questionable recruiting, the poor drafting (in some years), the lack of ability of the assitant coaches. But, when the Board launches a review into these things, then they have gone early and sabotaged the season??
Yes, 100% agree that they should have kept it quiet (but, i guess this issue is, if it got out), but i dont agree that they should not have done it.
Review was needed, they did it. Maybe they have failed in the communication
About timing. When players, coaches and others play half a season with a sword hanging over their head it just creates distrust and disunity. Hence you get the performances like we have seen recently. For a young coach the pressure must've been enormous. Must've been hard to think clear and concisely as you would need to in that position.
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(08-18-2021, 07:35 AM)laj link Wrote:About timing. When players, coaches and others play half a season with a sword hanging over their head it just creates distrust and disunity. Hence you get the performances like we have seen recently. For a young coach the pressure must've been enormous. Must've been hard to think clear and concisely as you would need to in that position. I disagree, we have been performing exactly the same every year more or less without reviews occurring.
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Also reported on Ch7 by Tom Browne tonight was something about Chris Judd has been involved in the review, I didn't catch it properly maybe someone else heard and they can elaborate.
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(08-18-2021, 08:58 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Also reported on Ch7 by Tom Browne tonight was something about Chris Judd has been involved in the review, I didn't catch it properly maybe someone else heard and they can elaborate.
Conflicting reports, dated 13th August :
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/foot...58ilj.html
Carlton great Chris Judd is set to officially step down from the board at the end of the season along with outgoing president Mark LoGiudice after making his intention to depart the club clear in May, a month before the independent review was called.
Judd did not attend Thursday night’s board meeting where the review was presented and has not been involved since the club commissioned respected football judges Geoff Walsh, Matthew Pavlich and Graham Lowe to conduct the review.
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Lets have a look at the review and some of the information that has come out recently.
1. Eddie Betts has been told this is it.....and was told 3 weeks ago.
2. Levi has been told similar, when....we don't quite now, but we just found out.
3. Gold Coast have already contacted and sought out Levi Casboult.....so it suggests that he was also told a little while ago.
Now....park that for a minute and think about this.
Teague....the biggest problem people have with his time as coach has been 'his' performance against bottom placed North Melbourne (despite having no KPPs available). Further to that was our performance against Port.
Putting it all together....
Our team performance went down hill at the exact time....
1. Betts was told he was no longer required.
2. Docherty found out his cancer had returned
3. We had our weakest ever side available for selection.
.....and potentially Murphy, Casboult and whoever else as well.
Now the 2 and 3 are flat out unfortunate, but 1 is on the club and the timing.
The review has caused issues for the coach and the coach has been put under pressure by the review. Its a self fulfilling prophecy.
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(08-18-2021, 09:13 AM)kruddler date Wrote:Its a self fulfilling prophecy. Some will say that is exactly how corporate reviews work.
The question is posed only after the preferred answer is known!
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