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(07-30-2021, 08:49 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Stated on the news he probably wont field offers in the next 3-4 weeks. Looks like he is favouring a year off. Stated he was seeing out his contract too and he would be at Hawthorn next year....reckon 1.5 mill a year for 5 years might change his mind. If Gold Coast really want him he might get more than that via the good old AFL chipping in too.
He can just sit back now and yep he wont field any offers for 3-4 weeks but I bet his manager will....
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(07-30-2021, 08:59 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Stated he was seeing out his contract too and he would be at Hawthorn next year....reckon 1.5 mill a year for 5 years might change his mind. If Gold Coast really want him he might get more than that via the good old AFL chipping in too.
He can just sit back now and yep he wont field any offers for 3-4 weeks but I bet his manager will.... He said he would stay, they terminated him early. He has honoured his word to this day. If he says tomorrow he will take a break, I would believe it.
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(07-30-2021, 08:51 AM)kruddler link Wrote:OK, i think i've worked out the outcome this review was supposed to have.
Lets look at some facts.
1. Outgoing president stated Teague will coach 2022.
2. Clarkson is sacked and will sit out 2022 and get paid to do so.
Joining the dots....
Clarko coaches us in 2023. Not sure MLG's word is good for much, would we really let Clarkson sit out and let other clubs court him?
What if Teague makes finals 2022 and we have promised Clarko the job....very awkward?, not to mention poor old DT who will live every game like its his last. Might as well pay Teague out if thats the plan and get Clarko working now.
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(07-30-2021, 09:05 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Not sure MLG's word is good for much, would we really let Clarkson sit out and let other clubs court him?
What if Teague makes finals 2022 and we have promised Clarko the job....very awkward?, not to mention poor old DT who will live every game like its his last. Might as well pay Teague out if thats the plan and get Clarko working now.
I would expect there would be an agreement and possible signed contracts if it was the case.
As for your what if's....club is not that forward thinking. We can still make finals this year!
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(07-30-2021, 09:01 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:He said he would stay, they terminated him early. He has honoured his word to this day. If he says tomorrow he will take a break, I would believe it. My view is he wanted the money and had no intention of coaching but backed that knob Jeff Kennett into a corner saying he was staying put and Mitchell has been having a hissy fit at the thought so Kennett had to offer the payout.
He didnt seem to have any trouble accepting or having too many tears for those young players he was so passionate about either.
Clarko 1 vs Hawks nil...
Do we really think if he gets offers of 1.5 mill plus a year he is going to say No thanks ....this is his chance to secure his retirement
and then leave the game. IMHO he is burnt out and has other things, other places he wants to go but he needs the Willy Wonka Gold ticket to do it and there about 4 clubs looking for a messiah. This is his best chance to play them off against each other to up the money , we had the Review for a reason and timed it for a reason. Hope I am wrong because I like David Teague but I can feel Matho warming up the plane and having the caviar delivered fresh sooner than later..
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What the hell more does he need? Millionaire many times over. Pr1ck
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(07-30-2021, 09:17 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:My view is he wanted the money and had no intention of coaching but backed that knob Jeff Kennett into a corner saying he was staying put and Mitchell has been having a hissy fit at the thought so Kennett had to offer the payout.
He didnt seem to have any trouble accepting or having too many tears for those young players he was so passionate about either.
Clarko 1 vs Hawks nil...
Do we really think if he gets offers of 1.5 mill plus a year he is going to say No thanks ....this is his chance to secure his retirement
and then leave the game. IMHO he is burnt out and has other things, other places he wants to go but he needs the Willy Wonka Gold ticket to do it and there about 4 clubs looking for a messiah. This is his best chance to play them off against each other to up the money , we had the Review for a reason and timed it for a reason. Hope I am wrong because I like David Teague but I can feel Matho warming up the plane and having the caviar delivered fresh sooner than later.. We'll see how this plays out I guess. I just dont reckon Clarko is the mongrel people make him out to be in respect to his commitments to club and colleagues. Sure he wasn't going to walk away from a lucrative contract, who would? But I am sure he would have stayed if he had to.
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(07-30-2021, 09:21 AM)capcom link Wrote:What the hell more does he need? Millionaire many times over. Pr1ck
Just saying on fox footy that the agreed payout amount is 900k.
If hawks had to pay all that out this year, it would cost them AN ADDITIONAL 500k in soft cap tax!
Instead, they will pay it out over 2 years, and end up paying 75k tax in each of the next 2 years.
They are the first club to officially go over the soft cap.
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(07-30-2021, 09:21 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:We'll see how this plays out I guess. I just dont reckon Clarko isn't the mongrel people make him out to be in respect to his commitments to club and colleagues. Sure he wasn't going to walk away from a lucrative contract, who would? But I am sure he would have stayed if he had to.
I tend to agree. Every time his contract has come up for renewal, the media circus cranks up the nonsense, and every time he stuck fat. He was already pretty well paid, but I'm sure other clubs would've offered more.
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Whatever money a club pays clarko to coach (next year) Hawthorn don't have to pay him.
So, there is an opportunity, for a club to get Clarko to coach their club next year, and pay him, literally, nothing.
Talking about it on fox footy and they used $1 as the figure.
Suggesting that you can pay Clarko $1 to coach (and he gets 900k from the hawks) and you use that extra 900k soft cap room, to beef up your department and get a leg up on everyone else.
Now, how would you do that....
Effectively 'front load' some assistant coach contracts, and hire someone else for the long term and his wages come from the money you've saved by front loading assistants.
IMO, the ability to increase you football department (for free) is a bigger coup than getting Clarko as coach.
If we do get clarko (i don't think we should), but i'd be more inclined to do so provided we don't have to pay him a cent in his first year.
Would he effectively work for free though? If we upped his $'s from 2023 he could.
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