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Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
(06-07-2021, 06:23 AM)kruddler date Wrote:As bad as it gets......short memories by way too many on here.
Yes, the reactions are over the top bizarre at the moment.

I understand the frustrations, but I can't see any logic in the suggested remedy as it's coming across as a burn the house down approach!

Too many seem to be revelling in the Flubbo and Jab Snr smugness, it makes me very uncomfortable as a Carlton fan that many of my compatriots might be so fickle and fans and so susceptible to external suggestions.

Oddly, when we are on I think we are now far far better to watch than we have been for many years. The 4-Qtr problem remains, but get the balance right and we'll win the close ones, and be 8 from 4 instead of 4 from 8.

For several years we couldn't score, we blamed the players, we blamed the coach. The players are still there and can now score, regardless of the kicking accuracy we generate shots that we couldn't previous and the players are fundamentally the same crew.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(06-07-2021, 06:30 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes, the reactions are over the top bizarre at the moment.

I understand the frustrations, but I can't see any logic in the suggested remedy as it's coming across as a burn the house down approach!

Too many seem to be revelling in the Flubbo and Jab Snr smugness, it makes me very uncomfortable as a Carlton fan that many of my compatriots might be so fickle and fans and so susceptible to external suggestions.

Oddly, when we are on I think we are now far far better to watch than we have been for many years. The 4-Qtr problem remains, but get the balance right and we'll win the close ones, and be 8 from 4 instead of 4 from 8.

For several years we couldn't score, we blamed the players, we blamed the coach. The players are still there and can now score, regardless of the kicking accuracy we generate shots that we couldn't previous and the players are fundamentally the same crew.

Agree.

People are being so black and white they should go follow the pies.

People are basically complaining that we are not finals bound
People fail to realise that while that is true, we are no longer on the bottom of the ladder.

Improvement has been obvious. Yes, its slower than we all want, but the 'logic' of nuking the place to start again hasn't worked the last 6 times, but its SURE to work this time....its laughable.
If for no other reason than to try something different for the first time in 20 years, lets stick with the coach and give him what he needs....players, assistants....whatever.
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(06-06-2021, 11:31 PM)Lods link Wrote:The playing value of Eddie Betts has been questioned a bit especially earlier in the season.
He's playing some pretty good football at the moment.
He is one whose value is good, and place in the side is more than merited.

But I've also noticed that at breaks in play (after goals etc) he's very animated with the other players, talking, explaining, instructing...whatever it is, it's like having an assistant coach on the field.

We were behind the goals at the game yesterday and it was obvious how well Betts reads the game and how he directs those around him.
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For all the issues we are close in every game near enough. Wouldn't actually take that much to change things on the scoreboard if we wanted to badly enough.
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Maybe we've truly reached the proverbial line in the sand stage.... And it can only go two ways from here.  Maybe there will now  be the want and  impetus to get our sh1t (finally)  together.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
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Bolton had the first 4 years of the reset. Teague has had years 5 and 6.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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Yep
I understand the disappointment in not meeting our own personal expectations.
There is a danger in acting too soon... but there also comes a point when you can leave things too long.
(How long is a piece of string? :Smile )
Picking that point is really difficult...and whichever way you go you're going to cop criticism.
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It might be a good idea to stay away from the football shows this week.
We'll be 'chum' in the water for the sharks.
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(06-07-2021, 07:33 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Bolton had the first 4 years of the reset. Teague has had years 5 and 6.

Personally, sacking Bolton declared the reset a failure, and signalled a new 5 year count.  We probably went 2 years too early on Bolton, but it wasnt working. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(06-07-2021, 07:56 AM)Lods link Wrote:Here we go....

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carl...2W-SUwNvhM
Yep...thats the we are done for 2021 call and lets order the timber for the gallows and find ourselves a scape goat.
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