Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

[PaulP]

I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.

Dont think its hate, more disappointment...was picked up to be the bigger mid support for Cripps but doesnt have the
appetite for the hard contest and has been guilty of removing himself from contact situations.
Thats ok if you are getting the ball 30 plus times a game and you kick like an arrow to your teammates but he doesnt get real big numbers and isnt an influential player who will win you games. Probably done his best work on a wing or tagging but thats not what we got him for and he sits in that group of players who are handy Indians but wont ever be a Chief.

[Gointocarlton]

I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.

As EB said, not hate, disappointment. I refer to that Mongrel Punt link posted the other day, the author stated we have too many players that either arent AFL standard or are just happy being AFL players. I reckon Setterfield sits in the latter category. No sense of urgency, doesnt over extend himself, just meanders along happy to be getting a game.

[capcom]

A cheap penny bunger rather than a grenade.  Can't wait to see the back of him

[WASurfer]

I was in favour of selecting Casboult last week to play back and essentially just clog up their forward line but it wasn't really their talls that did the damage in the end. It's a very small ground and out of the middle you usually just bypass CHF altogether. Darling will be their target this week and one of Jones or Weitering can pick him up. They might choose to play Williams forward AND Vardy as backup ruck. I think a better option is someone like Parks to go to Waterman who'll essentially be their third tall. Parks not in the greatest of form but without Plowman, strangely, it does limit our options a bit. Liam Ryan is the danger....he hasn't had a huge amount of impact in recent weeks but hard to see the perfect match up for him either.....maybe Stocker gets that job?

[ElwoodBlues1]

I was in favour of selecting Casboult last week to play back and essentially just clog up their forward line but it wasn't really their talls that did the damage in the end. It's a very small ground and out of the middle you usually just bypass CHF altogether. Darling will be their target this week and one of Jones or Weitering can pick him up. They might choose to play Williams forward AND Vardy as backup ruck. I think a better option is someone like Parks to go to Waterman who'll essentially be their third tall. Parks not in the greatest of form but without Plowman, strangely, it does limit our options a bit. Liam Ryan is the danger....he hasn't had a huge amount of impact in recent weeks but hard to see the perfect match up for him either.....maybe Stocker gets that job?

I wouldnt play Parks, think he would be a liability given his previous form in the VFL, Stocker isnt that great overhead so I'm not sure I would want him on leaping Liam either.
I think you are right on Williams and Vardy, they will want to tie up Jones or Weitering having to play on a taller player and might also want the option of a tall down back clogging up Harry's space.
Weiterings intercept marking will come under notice and I can see them trying to drag him out of play and play a decoy tall type to do that.

[laj]

Official;

In: Dow, Fisher.

Our: Casboult (omitted), Gibbons (inj), Fogarty (managed).

Murphy is in just too after being 23rd man last week

[tonyo]

I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.

I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.

Nor me, in fact, I thought he was ok last week.

Some players are a slow burn, and it's easy to forget he came to us having played only a handful of games (he hasn't hit 50 yet).  I'm still quietly confident he can turn into a really solid mid.

[townsendcalling]

Looking through the WCE line up.......there are still some very handy, experienced players taking the park on Sunday!

[PaulP]

Looking through the WCE line up.......there are still some very handy, experienced players taking the park on Sunday!

Definitely not a game to take lightly or get complacent - for fans, coaches and players.