Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

[Professer E]

Weak Christian,  really effing weak.  It's OK to give Plowman a holiday,  but what Buddy did was reckless and potentially way worse.  But then again, he's an untouchable and Plowman's just a nobody from that irrelevant club,  you know the one that the AFL uses to make examples of because they never kick up a fuss and just roll over and take it.

Stocker should have dropped Mills for that act.  What a weak,  gutless maggot.

[31Tommys_barber]

They want buddy to get to 1000 goals before he gets injured again. Was never getting suspended for an act that anybody else would. Want the media PR explosion of first aboriginal player to 1000. Which is on its own is a dam fine effort for a bloke who can’t mark above his head. Should have at least copped a fine though

[Macca37]

I guess the point I was making is that the personal pronoun "we" as it relates to the club, and as it relates to this topic, encompasses hundreds and possibly thousands of changes in every department, over the last 15 or 20 years. Hundreds of players, a few different recruiters, numerous senior coaches, assistant coaches, heads of football, recruiters, list managers, board members, presidents etc. Notwithstanding all this, the failures of the previous recruiter / coach / player etc., become part of the identity of the successor, since when someone fails, the successor defines themselves (at least in part) in opposition to what has come before. They don't copy each other, and they are chosen as successors precisely because they offer a point of difference to their predecessor. There is a specific attempt made to disconnect from the past and fix those errors. And yet across these numerous changes and attempts to fix the errors of the past, the niceness persists...............

You make some thoughtful points.  With Carlton I wonder whether it is a case this century of the tail wagging the dog.

Amongst all the changes to personnel you have listed and the different skills and attitudes they bring with them, there is one constant which must have affected their thinking and actions; namely, the failure of the Club for the past 20 years to provide a  competitive list with the ability to play in the final 4 or 6.

Especially in the early years nobody wanted to come to Carlton, despite the best efforts of our recruiting personnel.  That must have affected the morale of the players and staff alike and created a negative culture.

Imagine if we could turn on a magic switch and have a competitive list.  The old swagger would return, petty differences would be forgotten, the staff would be motivated and, most importantly, we would be seen as winners and a desirable club for top players to come to.

Until that competitive list is realised I fear we are going to rummage around in the bottom 6 for quite some time.

[LP]

It was dangerous what Buddy did and he should have been suspended...it was the old Champs call vs the no name player.

It just shows how disingenuous the AFL is over high contact, this sort of incident and the AFL's response will be the type of video evidence used in claims when the AFL goes to the wall over CTE!

Gil and his mates are just buying time to make sure they get their pension!

[Milhanna13]

Brisbane have gone well past us but I'll reserve my opinion on Essendon.....still relying on unpredictable types like Stringer to win them games and I dont think Merrett, Parish, Heppell, Shiel etc are my idea of a finals winning midfield setup.

Yeah, lets not overreact to Cheats success yet.  Getting a lot of press, but you would expect that, with how many pro-Cheats media there are

[chalkybill]

And last night on FC the mongrel Cane Cornes put forward the proposal that Essendon lure Big Harry and his brother to them.  He argued why stay at an unsuccessful club, one unlikely to succeed for a few years when you can join an upward moving club like Essendon.  Raping the unsuccessful clubs would be a disaster.    :'(  >  >  >  >  >  >

[crashlander]

And last night on FC the mongrel Cane Cornes put forward the proposal that Essendon lure Big Harry and his brother to them.  He argued why stay at an unsuccessful club, one unlikely to succeed for a few years when you can join an upward moving club like Essendon.  Raping the unsuccessful clubs would be a disaster.    :'(  >  >  >  >  >  >

If it came from Kane Cornes, it deserves all of the attention I intend to give it: nothing. I tire of hearing of this ... fool. His opinions are worth about as much as one of my farts.

[capcom]

I cannot see that happening [member=329]chalkybill[/member] .... but muckraking is stock 'n trade for him.

[madbluboy]

Dangerous but no injury or impediment occurred. Having said that, weren't there some cases earlier in the year where the MRO used wording like "potential to cause injury"?

Zac Williams in the preseason got done.

[Milhanna13]

Glaringly obvious that we have one of the shallowest midfields in the competition....Cripps, Walsh, Curnow and then not much else...after all these years of drafting young midfielders.

Im still pretty glass-half-full....  Fwd line will look  better with Charlie, McGov, Fisher and with H, Martin and JSOS fully fit.  Backline will sort itself out, there are some good names back there.

But, yes, the midfield is a worry.  As stated above, outlside of those 3 (Cripps, Curnow, Walsh), who else to you lock in there??  Surely 1 or 2 of Dow, Setterfield, Obrien, Kennedy, SPS, Cunningham, Williams,  should have stamped themselves the next in line by now.  We really need to get a couple of decent midfielders in via trade over the offseason