Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

[Gointocarlton]

Time for my weekly hitout report??

Pittonet had 31 hitouts from 58 contests - He won 53.4% of contests he was in.
He had 8 hitouts to advantage meaning 25.8% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 13.8%

DeKoning had 13 hitouts from his 28 contests - He won 46.4% of contests he was in.
He had 6 hitouts to advantage meaning 46.2% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 21.4%

Sinclair had 24 hitouts from 68 contests - He won 35.3% of contests he was in.
He had 5 hitouts to advantage meaning 20.8% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 7.3%

McLean had 6 hitouts from 16 contests - He won 37.5% of contests he was in.
He had 1 hitout to advantage meaning 16.7% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 6.2%

As far as ruck craft goes.....we dominated the ruck.

Agreed

[kruddler]

Whilst another loss where we were in it up to our teeth until 3/4 time is difficult to cop (again), I have to agree with Krudd that we are not that bad.
Couple of points (not picking on players by the way):
- Docs fumbles which cost 2 goals, tidy that up and those 2 goals dont occur
- Vision of Saad sagging back to defend the goal line instead of defending is man, tidy that up and that goal doesnt occur
- Inject fully Charlie and Gov into that side and we dont lose
- Change some coaching staff around Teague and we will be way better off. Teague and and MC are starting to make statements with players like Murphy and SPS but I still think he needs better quality line coaches around him.
- Our best is good enough, about that there is no doubt and we have shown it against all the contenders. We just have to do it longer and be a little bit more ruthless when we do get ahead.
Yesterday, when we got ahead, we did everything right except put the foot on the throat. And that can be done in a number of ways and one of them is getting into your opponents head and intimidating them into submission. Instead, what I saw was Sydney players, despite being down, physically intimidating our blokes into submission. The sooner our blokes as a group truly believe we belong, that will change. Not trying to be a smart ass here but extract Doc out of that side and insert a Selwood or a Hodge into it and we dont lose, nothing surer in my mind. Not because they are superstars, but because they are competitive beasts who know the mind game side of thing better than most. They would have intimidated Syd into believing they were gone and the rest of our blokes would have followed. Instead, Doc for reasons we probably all know, has lost that "kent" he once had and the result was all there to see. Not blaming one man here, just making some points about collective attitude and leadership that we must improve in order to take the next step.

re 'kent'...
There was a bit of push and shove which we instigated which i was pleased about. We can still improve that area though.

I reckon Newnes back in the team for Gibbo (or Cottrell who is almost an invisible man nowadays) will add that little bit of 'kent'. He always flies the flag and doesn't shirk contact. He is a seasoned body who is not intimidated.
Willo used to be that player but is so devoid of confidence that he is not worth persisting with at this stage.
Gov gives us a bit of aggression, but is still weeks away.
Not many blokes not in the 1's we can expect that from, so Newnes should get the gig. It will help us put the foot on the throat a bit more and just lift that little bit extra when the going gets tough.

[flyboy77]

re 'kent'...
There was a bit of push and shove which we instigated which i was pleased about. We can still improve that area though.

I reckon Newnes back in the team for Gibbo (or Cottrell who is almost an invisible man nowadays) will add that little bit of 'kent'. He always flies the flag and doesn't shirk contact. He is a seasoned body who is not intimidated.
Willo used to be that player but is so devoid of confidence that he is not worth persisting with at this stage.
Gov gives us a bit of aggression, but is still weeks away.
Not many blokes not in the 1's we can expect that from, so Newnes should get the gig. It will help us put the foot on the throat a bit more and just lift that little bit extra when the going gets tough.

Martin doesn't mind getting down and dirty....

[Thryleon]

Mckay kicked 3.5.
In the third quarter, Fogarty kicked at goal truly only for a mark to be taken on the line.  If that one, and Harry's poster both go in we might have gone on to win the match.

Thats the margin right there guys.  Harry kicks 5.3 instead of 3.5 and we are that much closer too.

When it comes down to it, we werent that bad.

For all the Gibbons haters, he is an onfield coach for us, and plugs a lot of holes that earns him very little on the stats sheet.

He went off, and we crumbled in a way that surprised me.

It just goes to show, that we are still working out a complementary group of players.  I think we have enough of each type, and that our improvement doesnt come from changing players over for another, but getting the group to work together for longer.

[Gointocarlton]

re 'kent'...
There was a bit of push and shove which we instigated which i was pleased about. We can still improve that area though.

I reckon Newnes back in the team for Gibbo (or Cottrell who is almost an invisible man nowadays) will add that little bit of 'kent'. He always flies the flag and doesn't shirk contact. He is a seasoned body who is not intimidated.
Willo used to be that player but is so devoid of confidence that he is not worth persisting with at this stage.
Gov gives us a bit of aggression, but is still weeks away.
Not many blokes not in the 1's we can expect that from, so Newnes should get the gig. It will help us put the foot on the throat a bit more and just lift that little bit extra when the going gets tough.

Yeah sure, but I was referring to the skippers. Crippa goes ok, Doc was a ruthless little mongrel when he came to Carlton, I think he's lost that edge. Two knee recos and a bout of cancer will do that I'd imagine.

[kruddler]

Mckay kicked 3.5.
In the third quarter, Fogarty kicked at goal truly only for a mark to be taken on the line.  If that one, and Harry's poster both go in we might have gone on to win the match.

Thats the margin right there guys.  Harry kicks 5.3 instead of 3.5 and we are that much closer too.

When it comes down to it, we werent that bad.

For all the Gibbons haters, he is an onfield coach for us, and plugs a lot of holes that earns him very little on the stats sheet.

He went off, and we crumbled in a way that surprised me.

It just goes to show, that we are still working out a complementary group of players.  I think we have enough of each type, and that our improvement doesnt come from changing players over for another, but getting the group to work together for longer.

I thought Harry hit the post twice. 1 at each end.
...although it may have been someone else first.
Either way, we had 2 posters.

....and that doesn't include the betts miracle that hit the back of the post on the bounce.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Time for my weekly hitout report??

Pittonet had 31 hitouts from 58 contests - He won 53.4% of contests he was in.
He had 8 hitouts to advantage meaning 25.8% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 13.8%

DeKoning had 13 hitouts from his 28 contests - He won 46.4% of contests he was in.
He had 6 hitouts to advantage meaning 46.2% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 21.4%

Sinclair had 24 hitouts from 68 contests - He won 35.3% of contests he was in.
He had 5 hitouts to advantage meaning 20.8% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 7.3%

McLean had 6 hitouts from 16 contests - He won 37.5% of contests he was in.
He had 1 hitout to advantage meaning 16.7% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 6.2%

As far as ruck craft goes.....we dominated the ruck.

Lets look at some other stats.......Total Hitouts Swans 30 vs Carlton 44, Clearances Both teams had 35 each, Centre Clearances 16-12 for the Swans,
Stoppage Clearances..think we had the edge by 3-4......in short for 14 extra tapouts we really didnt dominate at all.
Pittonet and DeKoning had one mark between them, Sinclair had six.........Pittonet had -10 metres gained so he was stuck in reverse after every stoppage. For the 14 extra hitouts we had they didnt amount to any outstanding dominance as far as resulting play goes and our two rucks were shizen around the ground.
With Hickey out we needed to really dominate the ruck, we essentially played three ruckman vs their No2 ruck and a part time inexperienced kid forward. If that was a dominating performance from our blokes then the bar is set low.....

[kruddler]

Lets look at some other stats.......Total Hitouts Swans 30 vs Carlton 44, Clearances Both teams had 35 each, Centre Clearances 16-12 for the Swans,
Stoppage Clearances..think we had the edge by 3-4......in short for 14 extra tapouts we really didnt dominate at all.
Pittonet and DeKoning had one mark between them, Sinclair had six.........Pittonet had -10 metres gained so he was stuck in reverse after every stoppage. For the 14 extra hitouts we had they didnt amount to any outstanding dominance as far as resulting play goes and our two rucks were shizen around the ground.
With Hickey out we needed to really dominate the ruck, we essentially played three ruckman vs their No2 ruck and a part time inexperienced kid forward. If that was a dominating performance from our blokes then the bar is set low.....

Read the last line i wrote.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Read the last line i wrote.

Dominated ruck craft, yes I read that....not sure I would call 14 extra hitouts domination vs their second string setup.
30-40 extra I would call domination. 14 extra when their main ruck was out was very average IMO and when you add that to what Malcom Blight would call pathetic Pittonet and DeKoning around the ground then it was a very underwhelming performance overall. If NicNat gets 14 more hitouts than our blokes next week I'll be calling that a win for us, not domination from the WC AA ruck....

[blueboys_1]

Mckay kicked 3.5.
In the third quarter, Fogarty kicked at goal truly only for a mark to be taken on the line.  If that one, and Harry's poster both go in we might have gone on to win the match. Yep. We were attacking attacking and attacking for no results. Just though at the time that if we get a couple of more goals it could be the spark for us to put the foot on the throat. But Sydney kept defending, desperate spoils, tackles, and moved the ball to their forward line and scored goals. It was like we have thrown our best at them and we still cannot put them away. Hence maybe the 4th quarter fade out.

Thats the margin right there guys.  Harry kicks 5.3 instead of 3.5 and we are that much closer too. Papley got into it in the second half. His opponent, Stocker, was ball watching a couple of time and Papley got out the back were he got the ball and scored a goals. Maybe the wrong matchup for him at the time.

When it comes down to it, we werent that bad.

For all the Gibbons haters, he is an onfield coach for us, and plugs a lot of holes that earns him very little on the stats sheet.

He went off, and we crumbled in a way that surprised me.

It just goes to show, that we are still working out a complementary group of players.  I think we have enough of each type, and that our improvement doesnt come from changing players over for another, but getting the group to work together for longer.