Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

[Lods]

Just a question
Does anyone think we learnt anything today that we didn't already know?


I think today was pretty much a 'nothing' day?
No progress, but no backward steps either.
The margin wasn't huge, but we were probably saved a bit in that respect by their comparable inaccuracy and the weather.
We probably won't feature heavy in football discussions this week as most of it's been done to death. 

(Just want to add that Melbourne were nothing special and some of their lairy high handpasses smacked of an arrogance that would be belted out of them by some sides. )

[rocky]

Positives
I thought for a 1st game back against the top side Newman was OK, yet he looks like he needs a few games so I hope he'll get better.

I'll add another one. Stocker got a start up forward and had a fair bit of on-ball time which was good to see. While he was a bit sloppy at times I thought he did OK also and I think they should persist with this for a little while and see what he's got. If only for the mongrel he shows at the aggot.

[flyboy77]

It was another poor effort. POOR as a team, so many total absolute passengers.

Some will say we competed hard....

Tell me which of the Dees burned, even briefly, today?

Not Gawn, not Petracca, not Oliver or even Salem.....yet we were miles away.

[madbluboy]

Richmond, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Bulldogs and Melbourne flexed their muscles when they had to against us. Don't let the score lines fool you, we were never ever going to win those games.

[blueboys_1]

Any word on Cuners?

No word but did not look good. In great pain on the ground and then was able to walk off. Hate to say most likely an ACL. Poor guy can not take a trick, just as he was building some momentum.

[blueboys_1]

Disagree, think most expected us to be above both those teams, think the general view is that the Hawks are way off the pace as they showed vs Nth Melb and scribes have them as no chance for a flag for a long while.
The fact is like i said we can improve but its all about the rate of improvement and we are just slower at the minute.

Not according to Jeffery.  :  :

[PaulP]

Richmond, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Bulldogs and Melbourne flexed their muscles when they had to against us. Don't let the score lines fool you, we were never ever going to win those games.

We were never going to win them even before the season started.

[Gointocarlton]

Just a question
Does anyone think we learnt anything today that we didn't already know?


I think today was pretty much a 'nothing' day?
No progress, but no backward steps either.
The margin wasn't huge, but we were probably saved a bit in that respect by their comparable inaccuracy and the weather.
We probably won't feature heavy in football discussions this week as most of it's been done to death.

Mate that is exactly what I said to my daughter on the way home from the game.
My observations (was seated behind the goals level 1 behind the Carlton Cheer squad):
- Melb mids seemed to track the ball and hunt in packs of 4 or 5 putting pressure on us. They would spread hard when they won it.
- Their ball movement from Def to Fwd was very slick, ours was scruffy and inefficient. We have to work so hard for our goals, they seemed to do something creative nearly every time they went fwd.
- The value of a gun ruckman was on display today.
- Crippa just tries to do too much, gets caught too often and turns it over too often. I think he needs to get back to basics.
- I saw 6 defenders at their end who looked structured and made our fwds lives hard. Ours were bit all over the shop. Ol mate Plow was bit ordinary at times with his effort and disposal.
I'm note sure what to take out of it other than I can see why Melb are 9-0 and we are 3-6. I predicted a 4-5 goal loss and that's what happened.

[kruddler]

Just a question
Does anyone think we learnt anything today that we didn't already know?


I think today was pretty much a 'nothing' day?
No progress, but no backward steps either.
The margin wasn't huge, but we were probably saved a bit in that respect by their comparable inaccuracy and the weather.
We probably won't feature heavy in football discussions this week as most of it's been done to death. 

(Just want to add that Melbourne were nothing special and some of their lairy high handpasses smacked of an arrogance that would be belted out of them by some sides. )

More confirmation rather than learning anything new.

To me it confirmed that we are not that far away. Hear me out.

1. Dees are unbeaten this year, so losing to them is no shame
2. Dees defence has kept opposition sides to an average of 61 points for so far this season. We exceeded that, with Harry having 1 arm, injuries to probably 4 other starting forwards (Martin, Fisher, Curnow, Silvagni) and did so mainly in pouring rain.
3. We played poorly, but still only lost by less than 5 goals. We have a knack of doing this...staying in games. What happens when we get players back and start to click.
4. We are doing all of the above with Cripps being a liability. Previously its been solely because of Cripps.

So.....with all the negative about us, injuries, playing poorly etc etc....we simply will not die, will not go away. What happens when we shed some of that negativity? What happens when we can pick a side that we want to pick, not a side that is thrust upon us because of injuries.

We are 1 step away from winning ugly. Thats when teams rocket up the ladder. If you play poorly and win.

[Milhanna13]

Geelong are another who should be struggling

Helps when you don’t have a salary cap