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Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 7: Carlton vs the Drug Cheats
(04-30-2021, 09:33 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I think aside from this week we don't look likely to win too many for a few weeks.

Really thats what was the problem with Bolton at the end.  The team didn't believe they could win as much as anything else and then lost winnable games.

This is a real test.  Pummel the bombers as expected and we are good.  Have a neither here nor there win and we are in all sorts.

A loss...  well the story writes itself really.

If the players don’t all really put in for this one then I would have to conclude that they probably want TT gone or at least don’t care.
Reality always wins in the end.
(04-30-2021, 10:48 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:If the players don’t all really put in for this one then I would have to conclude that they probably want TT gone or at least don’t care.

He's been pretty firm in saying he believes in this group.
It's probably fair enough to ask them to show they believe in him.
(04-30-2021, 11:13 PM)Lods link Wrote:He's been pretty firm in saying he believes in this group.
It's probably fair enough to ask them to show they believe in him.

The best way to achieve that is to select 22 players that are in form, match up well with the opposition and make up a balanced side.

Tweaking the gameplan to improve team defence and forward 50 entries would help.

Scouting the opposition and going into the game with a plan to negate their strengths and exploit their weaknesses would help too.  So would reacting more quickly to counter opposition tactics/advantages.

Finally, ensuring that the players are at optimal arousal levels for the opening bounce would go a long way towards setting up a victory.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
(04-30-2021, 10:12 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:People have short memories.  Yes, we have played our best footy, since the mid 90s, under Ratts. And, yes, we were great to watch.  But, he wasn’t shafted.  His time was up.  He had lost the players.  His last game, they rolled over against a joke of a Suns team.  There was no choice.    I don’t agree with the replacement, but Ratts was gooooone.

11-11 was just a flat year Like Hardwick had in 2016 and Bomber in 2006. You don't lose the players at 11-11 you just have a flat year, especially in a year we were crippled with injury like no other.
(04-30-2021, 08:42 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:If we finish the season anywhere near a 33% win ratio of 7 or 8 wins only, Teague should go.

He has time to turn it around....but if he can't find the key to switching on the guys for 4 full quarters, he's not up to it.

Not this time for me. He's got a side with a bad culture and the only ones who can beat that is the players themselves. Every coach we've had this century hasn't been able to switch the side on for 4 qtrs. Ratts was the closest.

This is where we trade out players who don't work hard enough irrespective of ability. One need to shake player motivation somehow. Had to change the coach last time to at least start winning games, now this time it's the players.
(05-01-2021, 06:15 AM)laj link Wrote:Not this time for me. He's got a side with a bad culture and the only ones who can beat that is the players themselves. Every coach we've had this century hasn't been able to switch the side on for 4 qtrs. Ratts was the closest.

This is where we trade out players who don't work hard enough irrespective of ability. One need to shake player motivation somehow. Had to change the coach last time to at least start winning games, now this time it's the players.

Bad culture? You’ve got to be joking!

Blokes are played out of position, our team is unbalanced, our tactics are poor and the coaching box is slow to react to what’s happening on the field.

More aggressive, proactive coaching and sensible team selection and we won’t have a “culture problem”!
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
(05-01-2021, 06:34 AM)DJC link Wrote:Bad culture? You’ve got to be joking!

Blokes are played out of position, our team is unbalanced, our tactics are poor and the coaching box is slow to react to what’s happening on the field.

More aggressive, proactive coaching and sensible team selection and we won’t have a “culture problem”!

Not a bad culture on-field. Are the fkn serious? What have you been watching for 20 years. FMD!

This side hasn't been properly motivated for 20 years with 5 coaches, better under some than others, more with
Ratts, who is also learning what a bad culture can do at St.Kilda. Teague is by far our 2nd best coach, win/loss this century. Motivation, hunger, drive, comes from within. You can have players in the right positions (which I would like admittedly), have whatever you want with the coaching, if the players don't want it badly enough, don't have the drive or hunger, you are going no-where. That is the same with any sport.
I know its not the right thread but Ratten was stiff to get flicked IMO, didnt really have the cattle and got the best out of what he had without much support.
You look back at the assistants and like Teague its slim pickings with our old friend John Barker front and centre again...
We are quick to sack coaches but should have been quicker to sack some assistants.....
Owies, Dow and Parks in,

Murf ,Williams [ injured} and SPS out. (omitted)
In: Paddy Dow, Matthew Owies, Luke Parks
Out: Marc Murphy (injured), Zac Williams (injured), Matthew Kennedy, Sam Petrevski-Seton

Emg: Kennedy, Petrevski-Seton, Will Setterfield and Tom Williamson


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