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Pre game postulations: AFL 2021 Rd 5: Carlton vs Port Adelaide at the MCG
#11
With a fit list (if we ever get anything like one or close enough to it) there is zero room for setterfield or dow.

The bl00dy team just confounds me sometimes.  But Cottrell is a definite keeper, thought his desperation and coverage was great.  Betts, despite the doubters, really shone as well.
#12
I thought setters went into the centre in the 3/4 and did alright for periods.

Anyway im not wedded to these guys, but I think we need to give them a modicum of patience.  Last year was disruptive enough but Dow and setters have both had some massive injuries that might be knocking their confidence about a bit.  O brien is the frustrating one who doesn't play outside well enough to warrant the lack of balance to his game. 

Dow had a chance to shoot for goal in the last and passed it off to Newnes which I think tells a story.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
#13
(04-10-2021, 09:24 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Dow had a chance to shoot for goal in the last and passed it off to Newnes which I think tells a story.
It told me that he knew he couldn't kick the distance so he gave it to a longer and better kick.
#14
(04-10-2021, 01:30 PM)JonDorotich link Wrote:Unfortunately we really need Dow, a top 3 pick, to make it and I think he’s still got the talent and desire to make it. I’d persevere. Same for a Cunningham.

However, I agree on Setters and Lob, over both.

No one is saying don't persevere but he can play in the 2s until his form warrants elevation....

That should be the rule for 95% of the players.....
Finals, then 4 in a row!
#15
(04-10-2021, 11:54 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:No one is saying don't persevere but he can play in the 2s until his form warrants elevation....

That should be the rule for 95% of the players.....

Understood, however I’m saying that we should persevere with him in the AFL. I think he’s close to a breakout game and is just getting stuck running to the wrong spots more often than not, which may be a result of not having much time on the ball over the past couple of years. Pretty sure that Dow will come good.

SPS is a good example of perseverance - he has been roundly criticised on this site for a lack of defensive ability/losing his forward (including by me) however he’s turned it around and is now playing a much stronger contested and assured brand of footy. Couldn’t be happier for him.

The difference between SPS/Dow and Setterfield is that the former two give their all and I can’t say the same at the moment for Setters, and a lack of effort should not be tolerated.

#16
Agree with JD. Flick Setterfield, but persist with Dow. For the past couple of weeks Dow, is at least, cracking in. Can't say the same for Setterfield who is a skirt at the moment and match committee should be telling him so. I'm hoping Kennedy gets a game instead of him.
Once again I'd also give Levi a rest. For the 2 or 3 good things he does, he'll cancel them out with 2 or 3 diabolical's (kicking at goal, attack on the ball etc.). If McGovern has survived in the 2's I'd give him another crack.
Poor old Jack will most definitely be out, which is a shame, but maybe now is the time to give another hard worker in Stocker a crack.
Common theme being in all of these is that we need hardness in and around the ball if we are to be any chance against PA.
#17
Port use the ball well from half back and we need players who can chase with leg speed, watched the Tiggers vs Port game and
players like Byrne Jones, Huston,Hartlett etc really hurt the Tigers. I wouldnt be going too large down forward and I think the key with Port is too match them with mobility.
Of course we also need a plan for Dixon who scares the crap out of our players and needs a double team...
#18
Paddy Dow
I think most want him to make it. We have always been short of a class back pocket to play on the skilful small forwards.  If Paddy has to spend more time in the two's, perhaps worth a try back there.
cheers Ab
#19
Pretenders or Contenders.
I reckon we'll have a much better idea of where we sit in the scheme of things after this game.
It doesn't have to be a win, but at the very least, a good competitive performance is what's required.

There are two things that MAY work in our favour next week.

1) We 'should' come with strong intensity and pressure...there will be no thinking along the lines of 'we just have to turn up.'
Not against this side.

2) Port may have put great mental and physical effort into the Richmond game...they may be the ones who are just a bit off in terms of the mental approach to what they may regard as a 'lesser' opponent.

Kennedy must play, and Mc Govern has  probably earned a recall as well.

#20
We could lose Plowman to injury.
We will probably lose Silvagni to injury.
We might lose Gibbons from concussion.

Marchbank got injured in the 2's.
Someone suggested Oscar McDonald got injured as well.

We already have Charlie, TDK, Newman, Martin, Fisher, Kemp unavailable.
Williams may or may not be available next week.
I'm sure i've forgotten a couple too.

but that is 12 players.

From what we've got left i'm not sure we are capable of winning.


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