Post Game Pandemonium: AFL Rd 3: Carlton vs Fremantle

[madbluboy]

So when is it?

There are two moments being talked about on forums, both happened about 60s apart in the 3rd Qtr.

I'm not watching it again.

[LP]

I'm not watching it again.

Then I'm afraid I have to call bullsh1t!

[madbluboy]

Then I have to call bullsh1t!

Then I have to call you a flog.

[LP]

Then I have to call you a flog.

You've probably been brainwashed by Malthouse or the crowd around you, are you seeing what Malthouse told you to see or what the mob saw?

The biggest disappointment in those two passages of play are the pissweak shepherds handed out by two of our biggest players.

[madbluboy]

I have been calling Murphy soft for 5 years, MM made his comments yesterday.

[LP]

I have been calling Murphy soft for 5 years, MM made his comments yesterday.

 You've come on here and potted a Carlton player based on a mirage!

[Gointocarlton]

Just checked, no not the one.

So It wasn't in the 3rd because I watched the entire third qtr that's the only one that involved the ball being kicked in his vicinity with a Freo player near by. I'll watch the other 3 qtrs and see if I can find it.

[DJC]

Did you read the article? Apart from the one line about Murphy which gets some fan boys knicker's in a knot I'm pretty sure all Carlton supporters would agree with what he wrote.

No, I haven't read the article (I have read several of Malthouse's regular articles bagging us or Buckley) but it was discussed in some detail on the ABC footy program.  Goddard's comment was part of a fairly rigorous dismantling of Malthouse's argument.

I did read Nick Graham's article though:

“He probably set the club back five or six years, a very ego-driven man, Mick.”

https://www.zerohanger.com/set-the-club-...ews-81502/

I think that Nick makes a lot more sense than Mick.

[Thryleon]

I think Nick is salty and has his own version of events that explain away a few things.

1.  Nicks version of events state that malthouse wasn't in it for the right reasons but stopping short of the line on run throughs states to me that malthouse was big on standards and making sure that players upheld them.

2.  Nick allows himself to externalise the blame for his afl career.  He was no longer in the young bracket when Bolton came along.  Is a bit of rubbish.  Nick Holman was delisted ahead of him when bolts came aboard and we were recruiting older blokes for specialist roles.  We ended up attracting in a superior version of Graham in gibbons.

3.  Malthouse played the older guys because as we can see from when Bolton took over we didn't win too many with too many youngsters playing.  Ive never heard of a coach that didn't play favourites.  Understanding why a player was favourite was key to working your way into a team though and its usually got to do with trust, attitude and professionalism in getting jobs done not because he likes the person or the way they look.

Ultimately, nicks opinion is a fans opinion, and its not completely wrong because there are elements of truth to everything but setting the club back 5 years wasn't done by mick, it was done by the club and each individual who failed to really step up and peform.  Our issues were more to do with archaic styles of management and recruiting.  Mick was mick.  He too is salty which is why he lines up Marc Murphy.

Malthouse wasn't all bad news and there are still blokes playing for us every week that we recruited under mick and thus far he's been one of the few senior coaches we've had who managed to turn a draftee into a bona-fide superstar who everyone would love to have in their team (cripps).

[Thryleon]

I think I know the incident that mbb is referring to.

It stood out to me on TV.  Murphy and a freo player running at each other.  The ball was probably a 60 40 in the freo players favour due to distance and going harder and lower was probably the right thing for him to do to win that contest.

Thing is, Murphy has not come out of those contests well through his career and was probably right to not go into it when the ball is in dispute on the wing towards the end of the third quarter when we are almost 50 points up.