Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

[LP]

Perhaps you're a stage ahead.

None of our mids is even getting first hands on the pill.

Is that skill, mindset, set up structures or some combination?

I'd say a combo - but largely rests on the coaching staff to sort it out.....

So guys playing permanent HBFs and HFFs get toasted or starved from the bulk of restarts.

The 6-6-6 probably hasn't helped us either, other than Saad we don't have a player with enough pace to play the sweeper role, when at AFL level you probably need two or three in a game just to get through it. So Saad is run ragged by the 4th Qtr, in both opening rounds. Put him in a team winning clearances and he'll be running off opponents in the last quarter and hitting blokes lace out.

[spf]

Amendment.
Luke Ryan, Cerra and Serong for Cripps and Guv.

Maybe it is time to consider a mega trade type deal: Offer Fisher, McGovern and Cripps and involve both WA clubs. There may be interest. What would we want back?

[kruddler]

On Murphy.

Is he in the 22 on merit?

Not this year.

Can we name 22 players who get in the 22 on merit?

I reckon we are a few short of that 22 at the moment.

[Thryleon]

We are seriously trading out cripps now?


Be careful what you wish for.  Many were happy to get rid of Gibbs for two first rounders.

Those players are Dow and Lachie o brien.

Cripps is going now, and his worst footy is still capable of being a match winner and we are going to ask for maybe sps, dow and lochie o brien back at the trade table potentially....

Im glad many on here aren't list managers. 

[Baggers]

We are seriously trading out cripps now?


Be careful what you wish for.  Many were happy to get rid of Gibbs for two first rounders.

Those players are Dow and Lachie o brien.

Cripps is going now, and his worst footy is still capable of being a match winner and we are going to ask for maybe sps, dow and lochie o brien back at the trade table potentially....

Im glad many on here aren't list managers. 

I'd be astonished if Crippa left or if our club has even contemplated life without him. Until there is anything concrete to the contrary, Crippa is a BlueBagger for life.

[Baggers]

Can we name 22 players who get in the 22 on merit?

I reckon we are a few short of that 22 at the moment.

Impossible to answer as a few who are shining in the Magoos are not being given a chance at senior level. Still the most conservative club in the competition at the selection table... form means nought next to reputation or perceived 'balance'.

At present, I reckon, based on form, we're sending out, about, our best 18 each week. Casboult & Willo were embarrassing against Rottingwood... and that's just for starters. Then you have to account for the fact that we regularly play 2-3 blokes out of position... so now we're down to a 'stable' 15 or so... then there's no defensive pressure... then there's the playing blokes on reputation not form (come on down Murphy & Co.), now we're down to a 'stable' 13 or so... oh dear, I picked a bad week to give up amphetamines (with thanks to Lloyd Bridges).

[ElwoodBlues1]

A big problem for us is that we only have a couple of A-Grade ball users, and sMurph is one of them.

While we are getting smashed in the midfield, I feel we haven't got enough footy "on our terms" to judge the D50 or F50. When we do get the footy we are under the pump or trapped in a press.

Murphy is being gifted games to get him to 300, I get it,  not many players reach that milestone but he is taking a spot that a youngster should have on the wing.I'm no fan of LOB at this stage but he along with Cottrell and others need that spot to either make or break them as players and I really think its a bit selfish of Murphy to be prolonging his career for glory and think he should say to the club I will step down and retire gracefully.

We are seriously trading out cripps now?


Be careful what you wish for.  Many were happy to get rid of Gibbs for two first rounders.

Those players are Dow and Lachie o brien.

Cripps is going now, and his worst footy is still capable of being a match winner and we are going to ask for maybe sps, dow and lochie o brien back at the trade table potentially....

Im glad many on here aren't list managers. 

I think the Gibbs deal was fine and good trading but the Dow and LOB selections obviously are looking shaky.
We might not have to make a call on Cripps, if we only offer 750k like Cornes and Lloyd value him at then he wont be staying, he will take the million dollar offer/s and walk.
What a lot of people are forgetting is we dont really have much of a hold on Cripps anymore, he will be a restricted free agent and if he does stay its going to be for a over inflated deal or for a short term deal so he can leave after a couple of years and take the big dollars then rather than now. This maybe the last time we can call the shots and will have to do what GWS did with Cameron and force a trade by matching another clubs offer if Cripps says he wants out...
You have to play the odds, no club killer big money  deals and no short term contract where we could end up big time losers and get nothing for him trade wise except a compo pick..
It cant be an emotional deal it has to be business....

[laj]

Oh yay.

[spf]

Murphy is being gifted games to get him to 300, I get it,  not many players reach that milestone but he is taking a spot that a youngster should have on the wing.I'm no fan of LOB at this stage but he along with Cottrell and others need that spot to either make or break them as players and I really think its a bit selfish of Murphy to be prolonging his career for glory and think he should say to the club I will step down and retire gracefully.I think the Gibbs deal was fine and good trading but the Dow and LOB selections obviously are looking shaky.
We might not have to make a call on Cripps, if we only offer 750k like Cornes and Lloyd value him at then he wont be staying, he will take the million dollar offer/s and walk.
What a lot of people are forgetting is we dont really have much of a hold on Cripps anymore, he will be a restricted free agent and if he does stay its going to be for a over inflated deal or for a short term deal so he can leave after a couple of years and take the big dollars then rather than now. This maybe the last time we can call the shots and will have to do what GWS did with Cameron and force a trade by matching another clubs offer if Cripps says he wants out...
You have to play the odds, no club killer big money  deals and no short term contract where we could end up big time losers and get nothing for him trade wise except a compo pick..
It cant be an emotional deal it has to be business....

Hence the question; is it time to consider a mega type trade deal with the WA clubs? It would involve Cripps, Fisher and McGovern - what would we get back? The other option is we trade the farm (Cripps & co) to get back a bonanza we then try to trade to the Bulldogs and prise out Bontempelli and another proven performer who will fit our game style - what do we do?

Assuming we are looking at this clinically without emotional attachment. Is it the right time, or do we feel this is a temporary situation and we are confident Cripps is committed and will be so for life - and does he suit us going forward?

[WASurfer]

Jack Martin and Zac Fisher both ruled out for up to 6 weeks!!!!

Can it get any worse for us in terms of injuries?