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(12-04-2020, 12:42 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Its amazing. I know they say that EV technology is the way forward, but has anyone looked up what a Lithium mine looks like?? Even worse, check out some solar cell production facilities if you can find some that aren't the propaganda laden clean room images you see on corporate websites!
I visited a factory in a nearby SE Asian country a few years back to perform some hardware upgrades, they have two facilities, one they take Euro visitors to that looks like a Ferrari showroom and wins them certification as an EU supplier, and another one where they actually make stuff which looked more like a dystopian sweatshop processing toxic heavy metals! 
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(12-04-2020, 12:42 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Its amazing. I know they say that EV technology is the way forward, but has anyone looked up what a Lithium mine looks like?? Jeremy Clarkson (i know) used to point out how 'green' all this green energy/technology is and pointed out that all the mining and flying stuff around makes it more harmful to the environment than what it is trying to replace.
His agenda was clear, but his logic was correct.
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The fanciful notion that we can ever replace fossil fuels without embracing nuclear is stupid in the extreme. I have a 16 panel solar system, NOT because I want them, but rather forced to do so by insane power bills.
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Yes, I note the renewable activists a few weeks back lauding the UK for going 3 or 4 months this year without firing up a coal fired plant, but they conveniently neglect to tell you the intermittent shortfalls are made up by importing energy much of which come from nuclear sites dotted around the EU.
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If you guys want to see a total environmental catastrophe, check out the facilities that process the dirt containing REE into all those fancy metals..... And the waste is normally radioactive to boot.
Wonder metals..... It's a wonder anything is left of the planet after extraction. The real cost of that phone in your pocket, or those solar cells or fancy bearings on that wind turbine.
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Ahh, the wonders of triple baseline accounting! ;D
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(12-04-2020, 02:28 AM)capcom link Wrote:The fanciful notion that we can ever replace fossil fuels without embracing nuclear is stupid in the extreme. I have a 16 panel solar system, NOT because I want them, but rather forced to do so by insane power bills.
I've got the same....and i'm not sure what you are getting, but financially, its not really worth it. The buyback is BS nowadays. When i first got it it was 3x as much.
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(12-04-2020, 02:43 AM)kruddler date Wrote:I've got the same....and i'm not sure what you are getting, but financially, its not really worth it. The buyback is BS nowadays. When i first got it it was 3x as much. Yes, that is quite interesting feedback. The tariffs are now being scaled back, and the subsidies / incentives are evaporating as well, further my associates wish good luck for many purchasers if they find the panels do not last the warrantied lifetime. One associate tells me some of the panels are so feeble they should be sold at 1/5th the price and replaced after 5 years for free!
Not only that, but the importers folding well within the time period of the guarantee, long before the liabilities arise, the installers close up as bankrupts leaving a trail of bills and the factory that originally made the stuff is long long gone!
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(12-04-2020, 02:43 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I've got the same....and i'm not sure what you are getting, but financially, its not really worth it. The buyback is BS nowadays. When i first got it it was 3x as much. But but but, our Green comrades tell us its the way of the future. Little Greta tells us so therefore it must be.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(12-04-2020, 02:36 AM)LP link Wrote:Yes, I note the renewable activists a few weeks back lauding the UK for going 3 or 4 months this year without firing up a coal fired plant, but they conveniently neglect to tell you the intermittent shortfalls are made up by importing energy much of which come from nuclear sites dotted around the EU.
I have a great friend in the UK (owns a small house) and her bills are eye watering in the extreme. Double mine without my solar feed in rebate.
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