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The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread
(10-13-2021, 04:07 AM)LP link Wrote:As ever the eternal optimist!

Mate, I just can't help it.  Big Grin
Reality always wins in the end.
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(10-13-2021, 03:56 AM)capcom link Wrote:10 billion years from now, the sun will die.  And most likely take the solar system with it.  The oceans are on Jupiter's moon(s) not Jupiter itself.  We should ask Adam Bandit for advice.
Wont need a Sun,  mankind will be glowing in the dark after countless vaccine jabs and boosters.....
Elon Musk might find mankind a new planet and pronounce himself leader of the Universe...Bonza airlines will be running passenger rockets between the new planet and the old earth.?

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Just need an exoplanet and a wormhole EB.  When the JWT (James Webb Telescope) launches in December, we'll eventually get images that'll make Hubble look like a child's 2 dollar toy.
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(10-13-2021, 03:56 AM)capcom link Wrote:10 billion years from now, the sun will die.  And most likely take the solar system with it.  The oceans are on Jupiter's moon(s) not Jupiter itself.  We should ask Adam Bandit for advice.
Isnt that what I wrote?
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(10-13-2021, 07:08 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Isnt that what I wrote?

My blue ... sorry.  But only Ganymede and Europa likely candidates
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https://theconversation.com/humans-are-d...ion-168839
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(10-14-2021, 02:38 AM)PaulP date Wrote:https://theconversation.com/humans-are-d...ion-168839
The author makes some interesting points.

I heard a podcast recently that covered the loss of primary species, critical species that possibility come out of the author's 1% or 2%  whatever it may really be, and the potential effects on secondary species that can trigger a cascade. That concept put more emphasis on the loss of diversity in specific habitats, rather than simply counting disappearing species which can be a natural event.

I worry greatly about the apparent loss of insects, many of the oldies among us just know without the need for further evidence that things have change dramatically around our cities just since we were kids. Our gardens and home use to be full of bugs of all types, many as common as muck which are now rarely seen. Where are the grasshoppers, caterpillars, plagues of moths around each and every light? I can turn a outside light on at home now and might not see a bug attracted to it in an hour.

FWIW, I try to contribute by logging sightings of marine life using https://www.redmap.org.au, which logs the change in the appearance or distribution of marine life driven from changing water temperatures. I believe there are equivalent websites for birds, native animals, plants and insects.
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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https://theconversation.com/what-is-cop2...-it-169648
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https://au.yahoo.com/news/disturbing-cha...29671.html
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While acknowledging climate change is real, I'm not going to discount the historical truth that humans on both sides of this debate contribute equally to the bushfire issues through ridiculous land management politics, and the situation is getting worse not better!

In one regional district, I recently came across a news article reporting efforts by a councillor to move a ban on the planting of gum trees, because they are dangerous in bush fires and storms!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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