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Post Game Commiserations AFL 2020 Rd 15: Carlton vs GWS
(09-05-2020, 04:42 AM)Shakin77 link Wrote:McKay, Curnow, TDK and McGovern will kick our goals.

It's important to look at the group as a collective and when you look at each player you can certainly find reasons why they won't make it.

Roughead and Franklin formed the Hawks key forward combo, but the original answer to who would kick their goals was Dowler, Thorp, Roughead and Franklin.

While some of them won't reach the expectations we set I think they will turn out ok.  As a collective group.
I don't understand why McKay as a left footer cant improve his kicking?  In two parts he can improve his accuracy by simply marking closer to goal with deeper inside 50's from the midfield and 2nd he always looks spent, sucking in deep breaths so improved endurance would also help with his set shot routine. 

McGovern is an accurate kick, but given what he has offered so far he may not be with us long term.

As for Harry, have a look at his run up with a set shot. It's all so casual and he is swinging the ball left to right and depending where it is on the drop is the direction it goes.  Against Collingwood and again last night he had deliberate shots for goal from deep inside the right forward pocket, favouring his left foot.

He went with kicking across his body and both kicks went straight across the ground from where  he was kicking, landing in the opposite  pocket.  In recent weeks from the same position another shot went out of bounds. 

Maybe Newnes can show him how simple a run up can be.
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(09-05-2020, 07:43 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:McGovern is an accurate kick, but given what he has offered so far he may not be with us long term.

As for Harry, have a look at his run up with a set shot. It's all so casual and he is swinging the ball left to right and depending where it is on the drop is the direction it goes.  Against Collingwood and again last night he had deliberate shots for goal from deep inside the right forward pocket, favouring his left foot.

He went with kicking across his body and both kicks went straight across the ground from where  he was kicking, landing in the opposite  pocket.  In recent weeks from the same position another shot went out of bounds. 

Maybe Newnes can show him how simple a run up can be.
Mate if it were me in charge, I would have Harry and the forwards doing nothing but goal kicking practice all week,
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(09-05-2020, 05:34 AM)Shakin77 link Wrote:We haven't played a game of football this year without at least one terrible quarter.

Been only about 3....Dogs, GC and Port Adelaide.
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(09-05-2020, 07:45 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Mate if it were me in charge, I would have Harry and the forwards doing nothing but goal kicking practice all week,
Aren't they only allowed to have about 20 kicks before the sports scientist say they have to stop otherwise they'll injure themselves?
I remember playing baseball, pitchers were only allowed 20 throws at training and 100 in a game.
2024... Moir of the same to come
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(09-05-2020, 10:54 PM)BluePhantom link Wrote:Aren't they only allowed to have about 20 kicks before the sports scientist say they have to stop otherwise they'll injure themselves?
I remember playing baseball, pitchers were only allowed 20 throws at training and 100 in a game.
Correct and here lies the problem, they have become a hindrance instead of help.
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2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(09-05-2020, 07:43 AM)Macca37 link Wrote:McGovern is an accurate kick, but given what he has offered so far he may not be with us long term.

As for Harry, have a look at his run up with a set shot. It's all so casual and he is swinging the ball left to right and depending where it is on the drop is the direction it goes.  Against Collingwood and again last night he had deliberate shots for goal from deep inside the right forward pocket, favouring his left foot.

He went with kicking across his body and both kicks went straight across the ground from where  he was kicking, landing in the opposite  pocket.  In recent weeks from the same position another shot went out of bounds. 

Maybe Newnes can show him how simple a run up can be.

To me, H doesn’t look confident when kicking across his body... it’s like he’s thinking “I’ll just get this thing on it’s way...” rather than the old kick it to someone in the crowd trick.
I personally don’t care how laconic he “looks” when he kicks, as long as he can kick to afl standard.
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(09-05-2020, 11:48 PM)northernblue date Wrote:To me, H doesn’t look confident when kicking across his body... it’s like he’s thinking “I’ll just get this thing on it’s way...” rather than the old kick it to someone in the crowd trick.
I personally don’t care how laconic he “looks” when he kicks, as long as he can kick to afl standard.
Fans underestimate the stress and pressure that kicking for goal in AFL presents to players, crowds or no crowds, and learning how to deal with it is part of the issue. When you watch the guys in the warm up from 45m to 50m out they kick at about 80%!

For example, in the absence of Rocca it's clear Casboult has taken a step backwards, this is all about head space and nothing to do with a physical change in such a short period of time. He's let the demons back into his head!

Plus I'm not going to underestimate the stupidity from the AFL of having a million new footballs available, if you take notice of the balls they use during the game you can see odd shapes of all sorts, it's like a lucky dip of finding a footy with the correct shape! Back in the old days the umpires would go through a bag of new footballs balls pre-game and pick the best one, now they have liquorice all sorts!
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(09-05-2020, 11:48 PM)northernblue link Wrote:To me, H doesn’t look confident when kicking across his body... it’s like he’s thinking “I’ll just get this thing on it’s way...” rather than the old kick it to someone in the crowd trick.
I personally don’t care how laconic he “looks” when he kicks, as long as he can kick to afl standard.

Fev's happy to help.

Get him and blokes like Kouta back in the fold.

Can't imagine they'd want much, if any, money?
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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(09-06-2020, 01:44 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Fev's happy to help.

Get him and blokes like Kouta back in the fold.

Can't imagine they'd want much, if any, money?

While you're at it, get Fev to work with Cripps on his goal kicking. There is no system to Cripps and the rest him forward theory holds little value if he cannot kick goals.
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(09-06-2020, 01:50 AM)spf link Wrote:While you're at it, get Fev to work with Cripps on his goal kicking. There is no system to Cripps and the rest him forward theory holds little value if he cannot kick goals.
All our fwds have no system, H and Crippa in particular are "just walk in and kick it" types, no routine, no technique, no thinking through the kick. All the great fwds all had a routine they repeated over and over again. I find it ironic we can repeat errors in execution to perfection but cannot work on, improve and execute properly disposal and goal kicking. As I keep harping on about, as shambolic as our fwd line seems, we get it in plenty and have plenty of shots on goal, just too many behinds.
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2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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