Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

[jeza]

Baggers I haven't watched the game again...yet...but IIRC:
1. Cripps threw the ball out and if I am not mistaken, a couple of possessions later resulted in the Cottrell goal. If not the Cottrell goal someone elses but it definitely preceeded one of our goals.
2. I thought Casboult pushed the Freo ruckman in the back, gained possession and snapped that goal.
IMO, these squared up the two howlers in the first qtr that resulted in the Taberner and Lobb goals.

Casboult very clearly got into his opponent's side. If that is illegal they may as well call it netball.

[Gointocarlton]

Casboult very clearly got into his opponent's side. If that is illegal they may as well call it netball.

The one Lobb got was in the side and weak as piss from the Ump, I thought Casboults was more in the back than the the side. As I said, I havent seen it again so I will stand corrected.

[Gointocarlton]

Casboult very clearly got into his opponent's side. If that is illegal they may as well call it netball.

Found this, looks in the back to me.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/videos/afl/casb...lkvitmc7pq

[Baggers]

What I don't get about the Murphy criticism at the moment is he's being doing the exact same stuff for 5+ years.

Are people just noticing it now?

Good point. I reckon he's lost half a yard plus there is more talent around him now so his weaknesses are even more apparent. He's a fair dinkum conundrum. Against cheats.com.au in the last qtr some of his disposal by foot was sublime and helped us come back and win the game... then against the D1ckers I saw him kick into our forward line and land the ball beautifully into the hands of an opponent... does it too often and some of his bollocking work in the clinches is, well, ineffectual.

[RiverRat]

The one Lobb got was in the side and weak as piss from the Ump,

That ump was no way in the right position to be able to tell where he was pushed - he guessed

[RiverRat]

Good point. I reckon he's lost half a yard

At least half a yard plus Murph no longer seems to have the quick acceleration he used to have.

[RiverRat]

The Good:
Cottrell. Plus I really like that he has a dash of mongrel.
TDK. Some of his tap outs to advantage were deft. Although the opposition wasn't A grade the kid gave his all and showed considerable potential.
Backline. That group back there have saved our bacon on a number of occasions. BUT I still think SPS should be up the ground... maybe, just maybe, Polson will have improved enough to slot in down there... he has speed and attitude on his side. Fingers crossed.
E Curnow. Ever reliable and should be acknowledged for his consistent excellent efforts... though, Ed, please improve your DE.
Crippa. Moving nicely back into good form.
Walsh. Second year blues well and truly gone... and like Ed, improve your disposal kiddo.
Newnes. Ordinary game, great final kick. And people can stop whining about Gibbons being the one who should have taken the kick... he'd have kicked it too.
Teague. For stating clearly and strongly, again, that our expectation is to win... therefore, make finals. Love definitive public statement like that.

The Bad:
Commentary re Newnes goal after the siren. Especially Richo who said that who ever it was who barrelled over Doc after he'd taken his kick couldn't have slowed up/just part of his momentum. Have another look, Richo, Oh Head Of Immaculate Density... the player virtually stopped then pushed Doc in the chest - a free every day of the week.

The Confusing:
Murphy. When moved onto the ball he certainly did some good things, BUT, some of his efforts, for an experienced bloke, lacked authority and then a few disposals by foot had you pulling your hair out. However, some of his 'linking' was first rate. He sure has become a polarising character. The one thing about Murph that I personally dislike enormously, is that he seems to lack tenacity and passion for the contest... seems to always want to finesse, and that p1sses me off when so many other blokes/mids are throwing their bodies into the fray. He might occasionally do it, but it is NOT his default position - don't care what the reasons are, if you can't hurt for your mates then FO. If he does sign on for next year I hope he is informed that a guarantee of games is NOT automatic and at some stage he WILL have to make way for a young bloke.

The Ugly:
Our DE (Disposal Efficiency) is just about the worst in the league. We regularly have around a half a dozen blokes with a DE under 50%. Against the D1ckers we had 8 blokes with a DE under 50% FFS. That means that at any given time we have almost half the blokes on the field wasting half or more of their possessions. I looked back over a number of our games -- wins and losses -- and FMD it is a trend. So I randomly picked other sides to see their list and DE %s -- winners, losers, top of the ladder, bottom of the ladder -- and very few had any where near as many players with a deplorable DE comparable to ours. We clean up on this and look out world.

After watching the game a second time I really thought the umpires only had a few howlers, favouring/penalising each side... Crippa could easily have been pinged for dropping the ball in front of their goal when he was tackled and his attempted kick missed everything, that's just one example. Nothing near the level of last week's obscene umpiring exhibition.

Cottrell. Not a game for finesse but his attack on the contest was first rate.
TDK. Some of his tap outs to advantage were deft - YES - Now, if only he would hold an occasional mark.

Curnow - Excellent wet weather disposal - not pretty but damn quick.

Newnes. Great final kick and temperament in not being rushed. The rest of his game was better than his stats might suggest - not the most gifted player but he does his job - was in the Saints leadership group for a reason (other than the fact that they didn't have anyone else).

The Bad:
Commentary in general- Richo needs to shut up more than he talks - has been badly influenced by exposure to the incessant crap from BT and Bruce.

[ElwoodBlues1]

re:Scrutiny on Murphy, game is more contested, more players on the ball and cameras everywhere. If you shirk contests, put in short steps you are going to get pinged and it's going to be commentated on.
Even Cripps got nailed the previous week when he pulled up short to mark the ball.
The old days of carrying inconsistent or non contested type players are over.

[capcom]

Even Cripps got nailed the previous week when he pulled up short to mark the ball.

Try as I might EB, I can't see what he did was anymore that stuff up a simple mark.  Is there video of it or is that not one and the same incident?

[Baggers]

re:Scrutiny on Murphy, game is more contested, more players on the ball and cameras everywhere. If you shirk contests, put in short steps you are going to get pinged and it's going to be commentated on.
Even Cripps got nailed the previous week when he pulled up short to mark the ball.
The old days of carrying inconsistent or non contested type players are over.

100% and TF for that... no more hiding. You and I seem to agree on a love of accountability.