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(07-31-2020, 10:48 PM)laj link Wrote:We are developing. You'll get these results sometimes at our stage, and it's worse now because more is expected. It's not happening overnight. That away the frustrations and you'll see overall it's alot better. We've combined brilliance with crap this year, as up and coming sides do. What side loses to Melbourne the wins at Geelong, the toughest of all grounds, the next. One week efficiency and ball use off the charts, as Bevo described it, and in the wet, other weeks not AFL standard. That's unfortunately what happens when developing. You dont have that consistency. Often we do it in the same game, costing us about 6 places on the ladder.
Live ladder looked good during the 2nd qtr showing us 6th. Looks crap now it's showing 12th.
Jim, Probably more the way we lost, shades of the BB era, really dumb footy, soft weak contesting/tackling, too many cameo artists not enough main performers, Cripps looking like he has to do everything and collapsing under the load.
Lets hope its a one off....the thing we all like about DT's work is his ability to generate some fight and to keep on punching even if we lose, thats probably what has scared folks, having to revisit the past...
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Cripps problem is he's thinking he has to do it all.
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(08-01-2020, 04:31 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Cripps problem is he's thinking he has to do it all. Perhaps he is reading (and enjoying) too many articles about himself. I saw 22 rockstars, with Cripps as the lead singer, run out last night thinking 15 mins of footy was going to be enough.
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(08-01-2020, 04:22 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Jim, Probably more the way we lost, shades of the BB era, really dumb footy, soft weak contesting/tackling, too many cameo artists not enough main performers, Cripps looking like he has to do everything and collapsing under the load.
Lets hope its a one off....the thing we all like about DT's work is his ability to generate some fight and to keep on punching even if we lose, thats probably what has scared folks, having to revisit the past... EB what do the "weak" efforts have to do with the coach? I doubt any coach would ask his players to go play bruise free.
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Big Tom - Bring Him In
(De Koning In Moore Out)
Tom De Koning 21 years, 203cm & 97 kg.
Everything written about him from our Northern Blues/Reserves watchers and his form in 2 AFL games suggests he is big potential for Carlton............but provided we can keep him!!!
So if he is fit - Bring Him In
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(08-01-2020, 04:36 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:EB what do the "weak" efforts have to do with the coach? I doubt any coach would ask his players to go play bruise free. GTC..I'm just saying its unusual for a DT team to fold up meekly and I agree its down to the players and am not blaming the coach.
Probably have to look at the leadership on the ground too... Cripps and Docherty have had their own battles of late but not much insperation from other senior players IMO...
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(08-01-2020, 01:29 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Yes, I can see where you're coming from. mbb said he now looks like a B-grader, and he's probably right. One has to wonder what the problem is. Arguably the highest paid bloke at the club, co captain, most marketable player, seems to get his way on important issues (i.e Martin in, Bolton out). I'd like to make my next comment without starting yet another furore, but I've wondered for a while whether he is really captain / leader material. There's a part of me that really worries about whether he is more like Kouta/Whitnall etc. and less like Hodge. Just sayin'.
Comments like that imply that Cripps was in the minority.
Pretty sure he was in the majority, which makes your point moot.
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Big Tom - Bring Him In
(De Koning In Moore Out)
Tom De Koning 21 years, 203cm & 97 kg.
Everything written about him from our Northern Blues/Reserves watchers and his form in 2 AFL games suggests he is big potential for Carlton............but provided we can keep him!!!
So if he is fit - Bring Him In
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ps. Even if it means playing MoneyBags down back!
Still talking.... "Pre Game"  Tom "De Koning joined TAC Cup club Dandenong Stingrays and kicked nine goals in 2016 as a 17-year-old against the Northern Knights" Wikipedia
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(08-01-2020, 01:29 AM)PaulP date Wrote:seems to get his way on important issues (i.e Martin in, Bolton out). I doubt Cripps "got Bolton out", but I suspect Cripps state of mind was a reason to kibosh Bolton, and in my opinion justified if the club thought the coach had contributed to Cripps broken state of mind.
If Cripps really does have head space issues, it'll take more than a new coach and a few trivial wins to see the end of it!
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(08-01-2020, 04:50 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:GTC..I'm just saying its unusual for a DT team to fold up meekly and I agree its down to the players and am not blaming the coach.
Probably have to look at the leadership on the ground too... Cripps and Docherty have had their own battles of late but not much insperation from other senior players IMO... Roger that
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