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(06-20-2023, 08:19 AM)Lods link Wrote:Do the idiotic climate activists who block traffic realise that they do more harm to their cause than benefit?
Very few who are stuck in those gridlocks are thinking "good on them. I'll think more about climate issues in future".
They are actually putting people at risk.
Folks with health issues, pregnancy, job interviews, all sorts of different scenarios that could be life changing.
The cause is valid, the method of protest is not.
Fines are useless...six months in gaol may have them thinking of a different and more appropriate methods of promoting their views.

The fact traffic is actually sitting there, expending excessive amount of fumes into the atmosphere while not moving is ironic no?
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Dunno if anyone has followed the Charlie Teo story, whilst he does come across as an arrogant prick, I shudder to think how many lives he has saved. It seems to me now that for a couple cases whereby the outcomes weren't great, he has been taken to the cleaners by the establishment. Now I don't know the exact details of the two cases but I'll tell you one thing. Touch wood however if I am ever struck down with one of the terminal illnesses of the type he specialises in, he'd be my go to man to take the risks on me that no one else will to give me a shot a more time on this Earth. The way I see it, if you're calling on him for his services, the outlook is pretty bleak anyway, what more damage can he possibly do? Yes his fees are said to be outrageous by some but I find the treatment of people like him pretty ordinary.
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(06-20-2023, 08:19 AM)Lods link Wrote:Do the idiotic climate activists who block traffic realise that they do more harm to their cause than benefit?
Very few who are stuck in those gridlocks are thinking "good on them. I'll think more about climate issues in future".
They are actually putting people at risk.
Folks with health issues, pregnancy, job interviews, all sorts of different scenarios that could be life changing.
The cause is valid, the method of protest is not.
Fines are useless...six months in gaol may have them thinking of a different and more appropriate methods of promoting their views.

When you hear their spokespersons try to justify the disruption of ordinary folk's lives, it's pretty obvious that they're not graduates from marketing school.  Haranguing folk and making their lives more difficult rarely wins arguments.

I saw a post on Facebook (so it must be true) about two climate activists who tried to disrupt a Beethoven concert in Hamburg by gluing their hands to a rail on the musicians' podium.  The rail wasn't fixed to the podium and it was removed and relocated to the foyer, with the two activists firmly attached.

Being passionate about a good cause is fine, but you still need empathy, understanding and common sense to get your message across.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
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(07-17-2023, 07:13 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Dunno if anyone has followed the Charlie Teo story, whilst he does come across as an arrogant prick, I shudder to think how many lives he has saved. It seems to me now that for a couple cases whereby the outcomes weren't great, he has been taken to the cleaners by the establishment. Now I don't know the exact details of the two cases but I'll tell you one thing. Touch wood however if I am ever struck down with one of the terminal illnesses of the type he specialises in, he'd be my go to man to take the risks on me that no one else will to give me a shot a more time on this Earth. The way I see it, if you're calling on him for his services, the outlook is pretty bleak anyway, what more damage can he possibly do? Yes his fees are said to be outrageous by some but I find the treatment of people like him pretty ordinary.
Will be plying his trade in Hong Kong/China is the rumour, tend to agree with your thoughts GTC. Mavericks dont tend to last very long in the Aus medical system and the Nuero Surgery field is one where its very team orientated and usually several surgeons(up to four) work on each case and formulate a plan rather than just one doing his own thing. The public dont know that and think its just one surgeon doing all the work. Also Private surgeons offer their skills to the public system for nothing as there are not enough to go around both systems. In Teo's case he wants to be Independent as well as stay in the Private system, normally I would have a problem with that but the reality is you need the odd Maverick developing new techniques and pioneering new surgery and I believe he had funding from a private backer to work in his own private clinic however he cant now given everything he does will have to be ticked off by a controlling panel of other surgeons and as I said its rumoured he will operate overseas rather than stay in Australia.
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I think that Charlie Teo is a tall poppy based on what I've read about it.  The tell is that he's being criticused for offering a cure and then not being able to deliver.

I dont think any medical professional guarantees outcomes.
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(07-17-2023, 07:13 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Dunno if anyone has followed the Charlie Teo story, whilst he does come across as an arrogant prick, I shudder to think how many lives he has saved. It seems to me now that for a couple cases whereby the outcomes weren't great, he has been taken to the cleaners by the establishment. Now I don't know the exact details of the two cases but I'll tell you one thing. Touch wood however if I am ever struck down with one of the terminal illnesses of the type he specialises in, he'd be my go to man to take the risks on me that no one else will to give me a shot a more time on this Earth. The way I see it, if you're calling on him for his services, the outlook is pretty bleak anyway, what more damage can he possibly do? Yes his fees are said to be outrageous by some but I find the treatment of people like him pretty ordinary.

I'm not too fussed about Charlie Teo.

Mrs DJC's neurosurgeon is a ripper; both as a person and in practising his craft.  I reckon that if he couldn't sort out your brainbox, no-one could.

It is a very team-oriented field.  Mrs DJC's surgical treatment was mapped out by the neurosurgeon, her neurologist and a radiologist.  The surgery was performed by the neurosurgeon, an assistant, a general surgeon, with the mandatory anaesthetist of course.
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I've read somewhere that QANTAS CEO Alan Joyce is departing with some massive bonus, I think it surfaced as part of the Senate investigations. Now it's surfacing he's been leading an organisation that has systematically ripped off regular citizens, some having been dudded of once in a lifetime holidays by dodgy QANTAS ticket sales for ghost flights (Flights that no longer or never existed!)

In the meantime, it's reported this Joyce gets a bonus of up to $27M, that might also be a media beat up, but is any bonus at all acceptable in the circumstance?

I'd be clamping Joyce's bank account and making sure he doesn't leave the country before the senate investigation is finished!

We kibosh politicians over a bottle of Grange or some other undeclared gift, and this Joyce is going to pocket million$ for managing a company that is basically conducting corporatised theft.
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This is typical of everything that has happened over the last few years.  Don't get me started about public organisations and the "covid credit card".

Ultimately, the Australian super standards are such, that these profits get delivered to shareholders, that prop up super annuation, which means that the government get to take money from the pension fund, and the better Australian public listed companies perform, the better for everyone.

That means, that as bad as all this is, its only thieving from people to give back to them anyway and pay a bunch of people in the process, which stimulates the economy and creates employment.

Ultimately when push comes to shove, when you hear the government going soft in this regards, its going to cost more to go hard, than its worth.
"everything you know is wrong"

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(09-01-2023, 02:21 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:Ultimately when push comes to shove, when you hear the government going soft in this regards, its going to cost more to go hard, than its worth.
So are you asserting that somehow the saving$ justify the crime?

There are many legitimate ways QANTAS could have raised funds to survive COVID, helped by politicians if necessary, without stooping to theft!

PS; Have QANTAS just "survived" the pandemic, didn't it announce a huge profit recently off the back of slashing thousands of workers due to pandemic duress?
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