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(07-26-2022, 08:59 AM)Lods link Wrote:What an absolute schemozzle is the Manly NRL pride jersey debacle. Its a tricky and complicated one. You'd like to think people can separate sport, work commitments, religious beliefs etc but...
For some this is very simple, for others its a nightmare. I can see both sides, I'd hate to be Manly management right now.
As someone said today, what are the 7 players against, the jumper itself and the fact its forced on them against the wishes, LGBTI people playing footy, LGBTI people in general?
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(07-26-2022, 09:20 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Its a tricky and complicated one. You'd like to think people can separate sport, work commitments, religious beliefs etc but...
For some this is very simple, for others its a nightmare. I can see both sides, I'd hate to be Manly management right now.
As someone said today, what are the 7 players against, the jumper itself and the fact its forced on them against the wishes, LGBTI people playing footy, LGBTI people in general? They probably don't wanna catch the gay. : 
Even though they stick their heads up eachothers butts while going arm in arm....
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You’d think they might have had a moral objection to the large “POINTS BET” emblazoned on the front of the guernsey, but it seems they’re cool with that …
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(07-26-2022, 01:20 PM)Mav date Wrote:You’d think they might have had a moral objection to the large “POINTS BET” emblazoned on the front of the guernsey, but it seems they’re cool with that … Isn't the issue religion, I'm not sure there are any mentions of bookmarkers in the bible or quran.
I'm not sure about other religions, but I do know from a school friend who went onto become a catholic priest that in the catholic church punting is one of the few vices they do not frown on.
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(07-26-2022, 01:20 PM)Mav link Wrote:You’d think they might have had a moral objection to the large “POINTS BET” emblazoned on the front of the guernsey, but it seems they’re cool with that …
Hear! Hear! Spoticus Onnicus.
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(07-26-2022, 09:20 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Its a tricky and complicated one. You'd like to think people can separate sport, work commitments, religious beliefs etc but...
For some this is very simple, for others its a nightmare. I can see both sides, I'd hate to be Manly management right now.
As someone said today, what are the 7 players against, the jumper itself and the fact its forced on them against the wishes, LGBTI people playing footy, LGBTI people in general?
A failure of good management/governance. Apparently there was no consultation with the players, just, "Here, wear this." Much of the kerfuffle could have been avoided with inclusion, discussion and explanation with the players.
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(07-26-2022, 10:43 PM)Baggers link Wrote:A failure of good management/governance. Apparently there was no consultation with the players, just, "Here, wear this." Much of the kerfuffle could have been avoided with inclusion, discussion and explanation with the players. Agree, its ironic that we talk about this jumper thing being all about inclusion except they forgot to include the players.
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The strange thing is that the Methodist missionaries who implanted those homophobic beliefs were also strongly anti-gambling. Selective outrage by the seven no-shows?
If anything, it’s a spectacular communications fail.
Sea Eagles’ legend Ian Roberts has said that he would have loved to talk to the players about rugby and homosexuality. Surely the club would have thought of that, and the strong religious beliefs of some South Pacific Islanders, before committing to their rainbow jersey?
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Ian Roberts would also concede the minority perspective as he well knows he is in that minority, oddly here in Oz the 7 are in a minority as well yet our society now judges their minority belief as invalid, and that seems rather arbitrary like we have picked a side!
I didn't hear anybody wish harm on another, why are we so determine to force an opinion?
Can't we just leave them be, or must we beat the belief out of them, like a Missionary beating the heathen horde?
There is something fundamentally misplaced here, to all the world it looks like two wrongs .................................
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Is Clarko to Norp a win for most traditional clubs?
Clarko goes to Norp, win for Norp.
Clarko doesn't go to Tassie, win for every other club that needs to retain it's players in years to come.
If I were an AFL CEO or list manager, I'd be pushing like hell for Clarko to Norp ahead of Clarko to an AFL subsidised start-up!
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