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(10-19-2021, 06:03 AM)capcom link Wrote:Anything would be an improvement over Steggle.
I don't know, anyone who can rid Parliament of the malign presence of the master of the sh1t-eating grin deserves several terms as the Member for Warringah. Besides, it's become quite a progressive electorate and Ms Steggall is well qualified to represent her constituency.
I reckon independent MPs like Steggall provide greater diversity and a grass roots connection than products of the party sausage machine, like Berejiklian, can ever achieve, and they're not beholding to the party that gifts them their seat.
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Windows 11...anyone upgraded or know anything about it ?, I usually wait till the user jury post the pros and cons in consumer reviews etc before I take the plunge with upgrades.
It is a free upgrade at the minute I believe but if its no great improvement and more big brother add ons from Microsoft then I might pass...
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(10-21-2021, 12:54 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Windows 11...anyone upgraded or know anything about it ?, I usually wait till the user jury post the pros and cons in consumer reviews etc before I take the plunge with upgrades.
It is a free upgrade at the minute I believe but if its no great improvement and more big brother add ons from Microsoft then I might pass... I wouldn't go just yet, it's very early.
Many will also find that at the moment it won't even install on laptops that are only two years old, requires quite a new hardware with the Trusted Platform Module 2.0 enabled. However, there are rumours they will extend the range of compatible hardware further down the track, they will probably have to because nobody is going to dump a laptop or desktop that is only 2 years old just to get the newest version of Windows.
Another problem, is that some of the pre-existing existing software is not yet 100% compatible, I've been reading a lot of websites discussing the upgrade / rollback cycle where people have upgraded only to find they had to immediately downgrade to get some program they want to use working again.
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(10-21-2021, 02:11 AM)LP link Wrote:I wouldn't go just yet, it's very early.
Many will also find that at the moment it won't even install on laptops that are only two years old, requires quite a new hardware with the Trusted Platform Module 2.0 enabled. However, there are rumours they will extend the range of compatible hardware further down the track, they will probably have to because nobody is going to dump a laptop or desktop that is only 2 years old just to get the newest version of Windows.
Another problem, is that some of the pre-existing existing software is not yet 100% compatible, I've been reading a lot of websites discussing the upgrade / rollback cycle where people have upgraded only to find they had to immediately downgrade to get some program they want to use working again. Thanks LP, think I will take your advice and use the old rule of if its working then don't fix it..
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(10-21-2021, 02:59 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Thanks LP, think I will take your advice and use the old rule of if its working then don't fix it..
Agree with LP ... Been looking at it a fair bit, and like precious little about it. Wide berth
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When Win 10 came out it's performance and level of compatibility was awful, it failed to support a lot of legacy hardware, and degraded the end user experience relative to existing Win 8 or Win 8.1 installations.
At about the 6 month mark after launch most of those issues had been resolved and Win 10 became the better option even on a lot of older hardware.
I can't claim it's going to be the same this time around with Win 11, but the early experiences are very similar, a lot might come down to whether Microsoft want to push new hardware sales in the short term.
If you are an Android phone user, in the long term there are some significant advantages built into Win 11, because it looks like a Win 11 device will have an AppStore that lets you load your favourite Android / Google Play phone Apps on the computer desktop. At the moment this is only going to be Win 11 but it may even come to Win 10 long term.
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(10-21-2021, 02:59 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Thanks LP, think I will take your advice and use the old rule of if its working then don't fix it..
Likewise, thank you, Spotted One... and ditto, EB1 - if it's rockin' along okay don't stuff with it!!
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Can back up largely what LP is stating above with one minor difference.
A lot of older hardware (those with a tradition BIOS and inability to run UEFI) are not going to be compatible with windows 11. The whole reason windows 11 has come into existence is to do with cyber security (or a cynic would state a way to make a lot of money). The UEFI model runs inconjunction with the TPM security module in order to deliver much greater security to hardware and software, and prevent devices from running what is known as a root kit (long story short, something that bypasses windows before it starts).
Its still early doors, but the whole model is trying to cut off ransomware at the delivery mechanism, rather than reactively fixing encrypted computers. The problem is real, if your hardware isnt compatible, then windows 11 isnt going to be worth the upgrade unless we have a remarkable difference in how things operate moving forward, but I dont believe that will be the case.
We have installed it on a virtual machine at work for testing its capabilities and thus far from my limited use (only a few minutes of pointing and clicking) if windows and IOS had a baby, you would result in windows 11.
The start bar, is going down the bottom in a very mac way of operating.
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(10-21-2021, 11:58 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Can back up largely what LP is stating above with one minor difference.
A lot of older hardware (those with a tradition BIOS and inability to run UEFI) are not going to be compatible with windows 11. The whole reason windows 11 has come into existence is to do with cyber security (or a cynic would state a way to make a lot of money). The UEFI model runs inconjunction with the TPM security module in order to deliver much greater security to hardware and software, and prevent devices from running what is known as a root kit (long story short, something that bypasses windows before it starts).
Its still early doors, but the whole model is trying to cut off ransomware at the delivery mechanism, rather than reactively fixing encrypted computers. The problem is real, if your hardware isnt compatible, then windows 11 isnt going to be worth the upgrade unless we have a remarkable difference in how things operate moving forward, but I dont believe that will be the case.
We have installed it on a virtual machine at work for testing its capabilities and thus far from my limited use (only a few minutes of pointing and clicking) if windows and IOS had a baby, you would result in windows 11.
The start bar, is going down the bottom in a very mac way of operating. I prefer Windows on a Desktop where I can fiddle a bit myself , not a real fan of Macs or anything Mac related so you have added confirmation in my mind that Windows 11 being the omen child of the two operating systems is a pass.
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Just harking back to the discussion of the harvesting of oak trees to rebuild Notre Dame cathedral.
In 1807, an attack on Copenhagen by the Royal Navy effectively completed the destruction of the Danish fleet. The Danes responded by planting 90,000 oak trees to provide the timber to rebuild their navy. In 2007, the Danish Nature Agency, successor to the royal forester, informed the Defense Ministry that the trees were ready.
Two of the oak trees were felled in 2017 to build a replica Viking ship but the demand for wooden ships of the line isn't what it used to be.
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