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(06-30-2021, 04:01 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:They do moderate these forums.  People aren't allowed to say and right purely what they like, and abuse can be reported, and usually those posters are suspended, and then removed from those platforms.

They have community standards, and the commentary can be removed.  Removing the ability for people to speak, doesnt stop racism occurring, it just stops people hearing it.  This is one way to do it, but it removes the educational component of seeing it, and calling it out.

In time, all these issues will be sorted, but I see some potential scope for historical repetition of these issues.  Practising equality must be done without the usual divisions and seperation.  I.e.  Being proud and deady is fine, but it becomes a way to ensure there is division in society, rather than simply seeing us all as individuals, and then treating everyone with the respect they deserve.  I am an Australian born, son of a Greek migrant, and I too, am proud and deadly....  Except, I am not a first nations person, therefore I shouldn't be as proud and deadly as they are....  See the issue there?

I do.  It creates the division we need to remove to find an equal footing for all. 
Sorry Thry, I dont really get what you mean, I sort of thinks youre over complicating it (with respect). For me its really simple. I was taught to treat everyone equal and with respect. Black, white, red, purple, east, west, north, south, young, old, rich, poor. In sickness and in health, in work and in play, during fun times and in sad times, online, offline. Whatever.
Cross the line and there should be consequences. If there are aren't, it all falls down and we start again. People do what they do because there are no consequences for their actions. You talk about education, even the most educated can be hurtful, vile despicable human beings. Yes we must educate this early in life but when people who should know better step of out of line, their must be consequences (re-education and penalty). You say in time issues will be sorted, guess what? We've been going a long time and things still aren't sorted. We are talking basics here. Why is that? In my mind, it always comes back to two things. Lack of education and no consequences. I keep hearing about why we cant do stuff, too hard, etc etc. I want to start hearing about can do.
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(06-30-2021, 05:51 AM)Mav link Wrote:Just as well that clubs like South Melbourne Hellas have been excluded from the A-League, then. Having clubs that are divided along ethnic lines creates division. Maybe Italian and Greek social clubs should be banned for the same reason.

@goingintocarlton see this post for what im talking about.  The migrant clubs were effectively kiboshed from the national competition and not really given a crack at joining the A league.

The point to it at the time is exactly what Mav is saying.  Too many ethnics.

@Mav I will forever be a South Melbourne supporter.  Like the old swans supporters of Melbourne who eventually die, the kids won't remember and the club will dissappear.  Ive made my peace with that.  Instead we'll focus on the fact that Lisa De Vanna came from South Melbourne's women's team and it wasn't a Greeks only club.  We were happy to accept everyone.

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The Mrs and I are spending a couple of days in the YV and stopped at Healesville. Walked past on antiques store at they had old football records in the window. Couldn't resist, picked up:
1 x 1968 Second Semi Ess v Carl
1 x 1970 Second Semi Coll v Carl
1 x 1970 Preliminary Final Stk v Cal
1 x 1973 Second Semi Coll v Car
$72 the lot, probably got ripped but just couldn't walk passed. All in very good condition.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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(07-01-2021, 06:08 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:The Mrs and I are spending a couple of days in the YV and stopped at Healesville. Walked past on antiques store at they had old football records in the window. Couldn't resist, picked up:
1 x 1968 Second Semi Ess v Carl
1 x 1970 Second Semi Coll v Carl
1 x 1970 Preliminary Final Stk v Cal
1 x 1973 Second Semi Coll v Car
$72 the lot, probably got ripped but just couldn't walk passed. All in very good condition.

Good get GTC. About $14 or $15 each, worth it IMO. If you head over to eBay, you'll see that the price you paid in pretty reasonable in comparison. You'll forget about the price in years to come when you're thumbing through them.
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(07-01-2021, 06:08 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:The Mrs and I are spending a couple of days in the YV and stopped at Healesville. Walked past on antiques store at they had old football records in the window. Couldn't resist, picked up:
1 x 1968 Second Semi Ess v Carl
1 x 1970 Second Semi Coll v Carl
1 x 1970 Preliminary Final Stk v Cal
1 x 1973 Second Semi Coll v Car
$72 the lot, probably got ripped but just couldn't walk passed. All in very good condition.
Good get and as Paul said worth the money.....
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(07-01-2021, 06:08 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:The Mrs and I are spending a couple of days in the YV and stopped at Healesville. Walked past on antiques store at they had old football records in the window. Couldn't resist, picked up:
1 x 1968 Second Semi Ess v Carl
1 x 1970 Second Semi Coll v Carl
1 x 1970 Preliminary Final Stk v Cal
1 x 1973 Second Semi Coll v Car
$72 the lot, probably got ripped but just couldn't walk passed. All in very good condition.

Well worth the loot... would have done the same, in a heartbeat.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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(07-01-2021, 08:39 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Well worth the loot... would have done the same, in a heartbeat.
Thats all the validation I required Baggers Me Ol Mate.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/j...n-to-radio

You have to laugh.
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(07-09-2021, 09:00 AM)PaulP link Wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/j...n-to-radio

You have to laugh.

I can only shake my head and mutter, "Oh dear."
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
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https://theconversation.com/right-wing-s...ngs-164489

Focussed on Sydney, but interesting nonetheless IMO.
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