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(06-29-2021, 10:53 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I dont agree on giving identification and personal information to social media. 

They collect enough personal information that they don't need.
Agree and it wouldn't work anyway. You can get around that now with fake ids, people use fake IPs all the time,same with mobiles, emails. The dark Web, laundering through Crypto etc has created a bigger need.Police are spending more and more trying to keep up with it all..
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(06-30-2021, 12:50 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Agree and it wouldn't work anyway. You can get around that now with fake ids, people use fake IPs all the time,same with mobiles, emails. The dark Web, laundering through Crypto etc has created a bigger need.Police are spending more and more trying to keep up with it all..
I notice the top police chiefs stated they did not want access to the Q-Code records as they rightly pointed out it would discourage people getting vaccinated and using the system. Some may be cynical about that but really give, health, wellbeing and wealth drive crime it makes perfect sense.

The state and Fed police are now using more and more covert tactics, not dissimilar to ASIO. Crooked lawyers want to expose the tactics in court so they can get a big payday off the criminals for getting them off the hook. It's a game of cat and mouse, and perhaps indicates that long term the Feds need to be more involved. 
"Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck ....... Ruck, ruck, ruck, ruck"
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(06-29-2021, 11:45 PM)Lods link Wrote:Just from an ex-moderator/admin point of view and speaking specifically about this site...

As a site I think we've handled things pretty well over the years.
We've given a little lenience on things like criticism of player's skills, efforts and attitudes (and we've copped a bit of criticism for that)
But things like racist comments and rumours regarding player's personal lives have been shut down pretty quickly.
To be honest, we really haven't had to do much, as folks have been pretty good and vile and extremist comments have been a rare occurence.

I'm not sure how multiple ID's to verify an account could be introduced.
How we could view them, and verify them, and the responsibility that goes with accessing that information would all be issues.
I think we have to rely on our moderating group to act swiftly and get rid of the comments and posters who breach standards.

I think the time will come when social media sites are increasingly accountable, unfortunately individuals have many ways to avoid and get around detection.

Not to mention how do we trust as an example that you guys can secure our personal information?

Thats not a slight on csc, its a valid concern.

Identity theft is the number one driver of cyber crime.  It creates a lot of revenue for thieves not to mention gives them the ability to literally steal all you own and then leave you fighting to prove your own identity.  All for what goal? 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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Precisely why I'll never be on facebook, twitter or any other part of social media.  Enrich Zuckerberg or anyone like him?  They disgust me. 
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(06-30-2021, 01:14 AM)capcom link Wrote:Precisely why I'll never be on facebook, twitter or any other part of social media.  Enrich Zuckerberg or anyone like him?  They disgust me. 
I don't do social media either....its sophisticated marketing for the masses.
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(06-30-2021, 01:30 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:I don't do social media either....its sophisticated marketing for the masses.
A technically sophisticated backend, but the marketing message itself is fairly rudimentary lowest common denominator stuff. A technological race to the moral gutter.
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(06-30-2021, 12:50 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Agree and it wouldn't work anyway. You can get around that now with fake ids, people use fake IPs all the time,same with mobiles, emails. The dark Web, laundering through Crypto etc has created a bigger need.Police are spending more and more trying to keep up with it all..
Righto then, we'll just allow cretins to get on line and call Zac an aboroginal  so and so  and we just say its too hard. Not good enough as far as Im concerned. If platforms like Facebook and Twitter really want to, they can get proper verification and hunt animals down. If we want to make a difference, it needs to be pushed.
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(06-30-2021, 03:26 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Righto then, we'll just allow cretins to get on line and call Zac an aboroginal  so and so  and we just say its too hard. Not good enough as far as Im concerned. If platforms like Facebook and Twitter really want to, they can get proper verification and hunt animals down. If we want to make a difference, it needs to be pushed.

They do moderate these forums.  People aren't allowed to say and right purely what they like, and abuse can be reported, and usually those posters are suspended, and then removed from those platforms.

They have community standards, and the commentary can be removed.  Removing the ability for people to speak, doesnt stop racism occurring, it just stops people hearing it.  This is one way to do it, but it removes the educational component of seeing it, and calling it out.

In time, all these issues will be sorted, but I see some potential scope for historical repetition of these issues.  Practising equality must be done without the usual divisions and seperation.  I.e.  Being proud and deady is fine, but it becomes a way to ensure there is division in society, rather than simply seeing us all as individuals, and then treating everyone with the respect they deserve.  I am an Australian born, son of a Greek migrant, and I too, am proud and deadly....  Except, I am not a first nations person, therefore I shouldn't be as proud and deadly as they are....  See the issue there?

I do.  It creates the division we need to remove to find an equal footing for all. 
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Paul Hewson
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In this particular case it seems the dill created a false account and posted.
Easy to do, impossible to track.

So what has he achieved....universal condemnation and  a very strong response from the Carlton club
He's  highlighted what a piece of crap he personally is, and drew attention to the fact that there are still a number of low-lifes out there.

He can't boast too loudly about it...guys like him usually have 'friends' who'll turn on them at the drop of a hat and dob him in.
The only folks who will know about his antics are possibly a few grubby mates who share his opinion.
He get's little satisfaction from it even though it's probably the high point so far in his miserable existence.
Loser!
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(06-30-2021, 04:01 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:In time, all these issues will be sorted, but I see some potential scope for historical repetition of these issues.  Practising equality must be done without the usual divisions and seperation.  I.e.  Being proud and deady is fine, but it becomes a way to ensure there is division in society, rather than simply seeing us all as individuals, and then treating everyone with the respect they deserve.  I am an Australian born, son of a Greek migrant, and I too, am proud and deadly....  Except, I am not a first nations person, therefore I shouldn't be as proud and deadly as they are....  See the issue there?

I do.  It creates the division we need to remove to find an equal footing for all. 
Just as well that clubs like South Melbourne Hellas have been excluded from the A-League, then. Having clubs that are divided along ethnic lines creates division. Maybe Italian and Greek social clubs should be banned for the same reason.
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