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The rise.... and RISE of Marc Pittonet
(06-19-2023, 07:40 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I suspect clubs see Tom De Koning as a Blicavs type player, or at least the possibility to evolve into that, and I suspect that's part of the reason why he is in demand.

Perhaps I'm the only one who sees the similarities between Robert Warnock and Pittonet. Both fine tap ruck men, but some fans and media critical of their around the ground work.

Big difference between Warnock/Pittonet is strength.
Warnock was about the weakest bloke to ever compete in a ruck contest. He got away with using his height, which was greater than all else. Pittonet is about average height for a ruck (202cm) so he has to rely on his body work and strength....as we know he isn't a great jumper either.

Both could do more around the ground....but that could be said about half of the rucks on an AFL list.
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(06-19-2023, 07:48 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Big difference between Warnock/Pittonet is strength.
Warnock was about the weakest bloke to ever compete in a ruck contest. He got away with using his height, which was greater than all else. Pittonet is about average height for a ruck (202cm) so he has to rely on his body work and strength....as we know he isn't a great jumper either.

Both could do more around the ground....but that could be said about half of the rucks on an AFL list.

Yes no doubt Warnock was a beanpole. I thought he was treated a little harshly by Carlton fans. Constantly injured and found it hard to get any kind of consistency or momentum going.
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(06-19-2023, 08:10 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Yes no doubt Warnock was a beanpole. I thought he was treated a little harshly by Carlton fans. Constantly injured and found it hard to get any kind of consistency or momentum going.

I can't recall who it was, but it was a collingwood player who was holding onto warnock in a push and shove, laughing in his face.
Warnock tried to break the hold by whacking away the pies player hand and he simply couldn't do it. He was thumping his fist into his opponents hand/arm trying to make him let go and he was simply getting laughed at......and rightly so IMO, it was pathetic.

Not saying his tapwork wasn't underrated, but he was lacking in other areas. Pittonet for all his limitations is what you want from a big guy. Loves a push and shove, love throwing his weight around, and does so with a smile on his face. TDK is probably somewhere in the middle, leaning towards the warnock side a touch.
You want your big men to be enforcers and to stand up for their teammates, not embarrass them.
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Pittonet has never played a game as good as TDK's yesterday.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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(06-19-2023, 08:50 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Pittonet has never played a game as good as TDK's yesterday.
I have to admit, TDK rose to the challenge against Witts yesterday.
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(06-19-2023, 08:50 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Pittonet has never played a game as good as TDK's yesterday.

Very subjective. Can't be proven right or wrong.

But as an option.
2021 vs Gold Coast - 57 hitouts, 20 to advantage, 5 clearances (3 CC's), 3 R50's and 5 score involvements......in an 11 point win. Fair influence on that game Wink
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(06-19-2023, 09:22 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Very subjective. Can't be proven right or wrong.

But as an option.
2021 vs Gold Coast - 57 hitouts, 20 to advantage, 5 clearances (3 CC's), 3 R50's and 5 score involvements......in an 11 point win. Fair influence on that game Wink

Not bad, he does well in the ruck contests. Zero marks and zero goals though.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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They both have strengths and weaknesses, and if the club is doing the right thing, they will played in a complimentary way, so that each helps the other to be a better player, in a way that makes a better team. That's the end game, and ultimately all that really matters IMO.
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Agree Tonyo....reckon it's hammered JSOS this year.
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The fact one will likely get $800k per season and the other is on $400k says it all.

Pit tries and is a decent tap ruckman but next to nothing output around the ground. TDK is still developing yet is already a more effective footballer can go forward and kick goals and has a much higher ceiling.
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