The rise.... and RISE of Marc Pittonet

[LP]

We had a discussion like this just a few weeks back and the next week Charlie kicks 9 goals.

This is what happens with KPFs, they are not like Mids, they don't go out and get 5 or 6 every week, and that is exactly the point I made before the Wet Toast game.

A big problem is the fan expectation of the KPFs, and the fact that in the absence of Owies our other avenues to goal are massively underperforming. In recent weeks Voss has tried getting Harry and Charlie further up the ground, and they both do well as hit up targets, but when he's done that in the absence of Owies absence we are getting squat out of Motlop and Durdin.

FFS, Harry took 9 marks last weekend, our top ranked player in marking stats. That in itself just highlights the poor output form a smalls and mediums, because usually it's onballers or medium runners that take the most marks in an AFL team, for us it's a KPP! Last weekend Acres took just 2, and Pitto the biggest bull on the ground a fat 0!

[ElwoodBlues1]

Poor old Harry is copping it yet we have a few players well out of form and who let us down. It wasnt Harry who was in the middle for the last 5 minutes spectating and watching Libba, Smith and Bont take over.
Reckon Harry will clunk a few this week and be a matchwinner with 5 goals, Pies are due for a loss and are light on for tall defenders.
Id leave Harry closer to goal and have Charlie drag the other defenders away and I reckon Harry will get it done.

[Lods]

[member=906]Lods[/member] the only negative to putting him in the VFL is the impact it may have to Charlie and him being worn like a glove.  It might change the mindset of everyone though and allow others to start chipping in more in his absence, and will likely sort out his own form.  I dont see the point putting him elsewhere on the park unrehearsed, its likely to cause more issues than it solves.  The one thing that I can see, is that the yips seem to be spreading where everyone is kicking like Harry did, and maybe that will send him a message better than anything else can.  Watching Motlop and Cripps do what he did might snap him out of it.  Its a pity we have to throw important games away in the process. 

For mine, we dont respect the VFL enough and thats another reason to send him there. 

If we could be confident of other avenues to goal the concentration on Charlie mightn't be a bad thing.
But we can't and all options come with a fair amount of risk.

We had a discussion like this just a few weeks back and the next week Charlie kicks 9 goals.

That's the letting him work through it option...the question is will that do more harm than good?
And that's a chance they'll have to take.

Whatever option we take the goal is the same.
We need McKay contributing and playing with confidence.
I think we'd all like to see him back, kicking mutiple goals on a regular basis...but whichever path we take he's too good, and too big a player not to have some role that benefits the side.

[LP]

Id leave Harry closer to goal and have Charlie drag the other defenders away and I reckon Harry will get it done.

We've a problem with Motlop, his aerobic capacity is shizen, so as the game wears on he covers less and less ground and camps himself and the spare opposition defender next to the KPFs, instead he should be running at full pelt back into the front and square space on the move, not standing there arms out like a beggar! The lack of run means Motlop's opponent is always there and available to give the oppositions KPD a chop-out.

Last weekend, Richards and Johannisen basically got a 20 possession head start from Motlop and Durdin before our blokes touched the footy.

[LP]

If we could be confident of other avenues to goal the concentration on Charlie mightn't be a bad thing.

For the life of me I can't see how our already monolithic focus on the KPFs will somehow be improved by removing one leaving the other as the sole point of focus!

If we want one out SoJ might be the logical choice given the Filth have not much in ruck stocks at the moment, leave Harry and Charlie  as is, and Young, Harry and Cripps doing the zone work.

Our big problem this week is going to be the Filth's Mosquito fleet forward setup, not the KPPs.

[ElwoodBlues1]

For the life of me I can't see how our already monolithic focus on the KPFs will somehow be improved by removing one leaving the other as the sole point of focus!

If we want one out SoJ might be the logical choice given the Filth have not much in ruck stocks at the moment, leave Harry and Charlie  as is, and Young, Harry and Cripps doing the zone work.

Our big problem this week is going to be the Filth's Mosquito fleet forward setup, not the KPPs.

Rumour is Darcy Cameron might be a shock selection this week...

[Lods]

For the life of me I can't see how our already monolithic focus on the KPFs will somehow be improved by removing one leaving the other as the sole point of focus!

If we want one out SoJ might be the logical choice given the Filth have not much in ruck stocks at the moment, leave Harry and Charlie  as is, and Young, Harry and Cripps doing the zone work.

Our big problem this week is going to be the Filth's Mosquito fleet forward setup, not the KPPs.

Aside from the West Coast game what we're doing just isn't working at the moment.
The forward line is dysfunctional and actually an asset to the opposition.
We need to do something different.
Maybe even something radical and unexpected
e.g Swap Harry and Young,

[Thryleon]

Look, I get it, we are a bit unsure of whats happening and dropping a key forward wont help or what not, but have a look at how we lined up for what I fondly remember as the best days at the footy I have had in a very long time and this was against a side that played in the big dance last year.


Carlton 15.12.105 vs Sydney 13.9 87.

You know who didnt play?  Harry McKay.  You know who else was a notable absentee?  Marc Pittonet.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/20...20520.html

[Adelaideblue]

Aside from the West Coast game what we're doing just isn't working at the moment.
The forward line is dysfunctional and actually an asset to the opposition.
We need to do something different.
Maybe even something radical and unexpected
e.g Swap Harry and Young,

Yes like the thought.  The one thing that seems to be missing from Voss's coaching (so far) is his willingness to take risk.  In game radical position changes can get the team back firing sometimes.   
Ab   

[Adelaideblue]

In similar vein, on a day when Crippa is not effective (with half the opposition hanging off him), it would be interesting to see how he would go at CHB. 
Ab