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Pre game preamble: AFL 2020 Rd 6: Carlton vs ???
#41
And no Naughton helps too. Just saw the team lists and Fisher one of 4 potential ins alongside Kennedy, Polson and Moore....so no Jack Silvagni again. Surely Polson and Moore are miles off getting a game...unless there's an injury or two that aren't being revealed? With some half decent ball movement we should be able to take advantage with McKay, McGovern AND Casboult up forward. Might be that Betts is rested for this one.
#42
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/740088...ions-named
#43
(07-09-2020, 08:32 AM)WASurfer date Wrote:And no Naughton helps too. Just saw the team lists and Fisher one of 4 potential ins alongside Kennedy, Polson and Moore....so no Jack Silvagni again. Surely Polson and Moore are miles off getting a game...unless there's an injury or two that aren't being revealed? With some half decent ball movement we should be able to take advantage with McKay, McGovern AND Casboult up forward. Might be that Betts is rested for this one.
Perhaps they are getting ready to rotate players through the 5 day turnarounds that are about to begin.
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#44
Backs: Sam Docherty Liam Jones Lachie Plowman
Half-backs: Tom Williamson Jacob Weitering Sam Petrevski-Seton
Centreline: Jack Newnes Patrick Cripps Marc Murphy
Half-forwards: Sam Walsh Levi Casboult Michael Gibbons
Forwards: Will Setterfield Jack Martin Eddie Betts
Followers: Marc Pittonet David Cuningham Ed Curnow
Interchange from: Kade Simpson Harry McKay Mitch McGovern Matthew Kennedy Zac Fisher Sam Philp Cameron Polson Callum Moore

Newnes needs to do more, I think. He isn't getting enough of the ball. However, he isn't making a lot of mistakes either. But if he only gets it 12 times, he isn't providing drive.
H has to be under the pump. He hasn't been doing much. Moore just might get a game because he does the negative things and helps to keep the ball in the forward line. I am not overly impressed by him as a player, but when H and the Gov are not doing the job, we would be stupid not to consider our options.
It will be raining on the Gold Coast: is that a reason to bring in Kennedy? he has been playing well for the 2's.
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#45
(07-09-2020, 09:38 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Backs: Sam Docherty Liam Jones Lachie Plowman
Half-backs: Tom Williamson Jacob Weitering Sam Petrevski-Seton
Centreline: Jack Newnes Patrick Cripps Marc Murphy
Half-forwards: Sam Walsh Levi Casboult Michael Gibbons
Forwards: Will Setterfield Jack Martin Eddie Betts
Followers: Marc Pittonet David Cuningham Ed Curnow
Interchange from: Kade Simpson Harry McKay Mitch McGovern Matthew Kennedy Zac Fisher Sam Philp Cameron Polson Callum Moore

Newnes needs to do more, I think. He isn't getting enough of the ball. However, he isn't making a lot of mistakes either. But if he only gets it 12 times, he isn't providing drive.
H has to be under the pump. He hasn't been doing much. Moore just might get a game because he does the negative things and helps to keep the ball in the forward line. I am not overly impressed by him as a player, but when H and the Gov are not doing the job, we would be stupid not to consider our options.
It will be raining on the Gold Coast: is that a reason to bring in Kennedy? he has been playing well for the 2's.

Moore is a worker and doenst have the talent of McGovern but the pressure has risen on McGovern in the media from people like Mark Maclure and he might be getting a holiday. Easton Wood is the intercept king and the Guv never chased or manned Wilkie last week and it cost us and Moore or Kennedy might come in to replace him.
Polson....tackles well but offers little else..
#46
(07-09-2020, 09:50 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Moore is a worker and doenst have the talent of McGovern but the pressure has risen on McGovern in the media from people like Mark Maclure and he might be getting a holiday. Easton Wood is the intercept king and the Guv never chased or manned Wilkie last week and it cost us and Moore or Kennedy might come in to replace him.
Polson....tackles well but offers little else..

Yep Polson and Moore are VFL players at best and I’d expect that Fisher and Kennedy would be the next cabs of the rank. I’d like to see Honey and/or Stocker but they don’t appear to be in favour.

Plowman survives again.
#47
I hope that Teague instructs Liam Jones not to attempt to switch play unless there is no opposition player within 30 metres of his intended target.  Liam’s preferred options should be going down the line or handpassing.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
#48
^^

I dont think there should be a hard and fast rule surrounding these actions.

At the time we were doing it, there was a clear plan to try and take the game on and go up the ground through the corridor.

It unfortunately killed the game off, but you need to back players to be able to make the decision to be bold when the game is there to be won.

There is no point chastising someone for the bad outcome.  No one wants that outcome.  going down the line wasnt exactly yielding results, as Levi, Mckay and Mcgovern were not impacting contests either.

The way I saw it, we were trying to win.  I think this shouldnt be condemned.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
#49
Thry, it’s not the intention that’s at fault, it’s the execution.

Jones lacks the skill and/or judgement to execute precise kicks into or across the corridor.  Weitering, Docherty and, more often than not, Plowman, Simmo, Samo and Willo can do it. 

Utilise your strengths and cover your deficiencies ?
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball
#50
^^

I actually think he can (ive seen him do it).

The problem isnt whether or not players can or cannot.  Its working out when they should.  Thats what a coach should teach them.  When the game is running away from you, the time to do it from even your worse players is then.  Why?  Because going down the line is what is expected from them.  If they elect not to that is ok too, but the opposition will expect Liam not to attempt to go down the corridor, or switch the play and he will be able to take them by surprise in a situation where the risks are actually not that high because the game is already slipping away.  So continue being bold, and hopefully it will be pay off.

This is what seperates a premiership team from an also ran by the way.  Its not necessarily about strengths and weaknesses and trying to bridge the gap between them, its about knowing when to play to your strengths, and knowing when its ok to use your weaknesses.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson


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