Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

[PaulP]

................................not a win for some time with genuine authority, when was our last convincing victory by a handsome margin against a half decent opponent in good form?.............................

R5 2019.

[laj]

Vanga is the italian word for spade, as in let's call a spade a spade.

I had to look twice at the word as my mind went elsewhere...lol.

[Baggers]

R5 2019.

Good example. Just struggling to recall who the senior coach was for that game... ? ?

[laj]

Good example. Just struggling to recall who the senior coach was for that game... ? ?
[/quote]Reckon a 15pts win over the side that finished 2nd at the end of the H & A wasn't a bad one either.

Forgetting the last qtr, we hadn't played 3 qtrs of football like that in years down at Geelong.

[Blue Moon]

I said a couple of weeks ago that I thought didn't no how to win, and didn't turn up to win. We keep falling behind by six, seven, eight goals, and then we start playing. The good thing about last night was that in previous seasons we would have lost by five to ten goals. The fact that we do have a go is good. But you have to have a go for four quarters not when you pick and chose to do it. I was surprised how good St.Kilda was in the first quarter and they really exposed our lack of pace in the mid-field. I thought Philp was good for his second game last night, and we really need Fisher, Dow and O'Brien in to give us some more run. Kennedy is another who seems to be running better across the ground this year.
It is easy to criticise the back line, but when you are getting beaten in the middle, and your disposal coming out of the back is bad, and the entries into the forward line are so poor that it allows you to slingshot all the way down the ground, you can see how some of the goals came form our poor play rather than their good.
I thought our players, back and forward had trouble judging the ball under the lights in the first half. This led to a number of marks which were virtually uncontested. When we closed them down and made the game a contest, we really had them on the ropes, but once again we didn't make the most of the opportunities. This leads me back to my original premise that I am not sure the Club really wants to win. They say they do, but I am not sure they really mean it. As I say, winners win because they win, losers lose because they lose.
We had Silvagni, Dow Marchbank, Kreuzer, Newman, Fisher and Curnow out, as well as Kennedy, O'Brien and TDK missing. I am not sure we have worked out who are our best 22 and which group is the best 22. This is something we will need to work out if we are to progress.

[Gointocarlton]

I said a couple of weeks ago that I thought didn't no how to win, and didn't turn up to win. We keep falling behind by six, seven, eight goals, and then we start playing. The good thing about last night was that in previous seasons we would have lost by five to ten goals. The fact that we do have a go is good. But you have to have a go for four quarters not when you pick and chose to do it. I was surprised how good St.Kilda was in the first quarter and they really exposed our lack of pace in the mid-field. I thought Philp was good for his second game last night, and we really need Fisher, Dow and O'Brien in to give us some more run. Kennedy is another who seems to be running better across the ground this year.
It is easy to criticise the back line, but when you are getting beaten in the middle, and your disposal coming out of the back is bad, and the entries into the forward line are so poor that it allows you to slingshot all the way down the ground, you can see how some of the goals came form our poor play rather than their good.
I thought our players, back and forward had trouble judging the ball under the lights in the first half. This led to a number of marks which were virtually uncontested. When we closed them down and made the game a contest, we really had them on the ropes, but once again we didn't make the most of the opportunities. This leads me back to my original premise that I am not sure the Club really wants to win. They say they do, but I am not sure they really mean it. As I say, winners win because they win, losers lose because they lose.
We had Silvagni, Dow Marchbank, Kreuzer, Newman, Fisher and Curnow out, as well as Kennedy, O'Brien and TDK missing. I am not sure we have worked out who are our best 22 and which group is the best 22. This is something we will need to work out if we are to progress.

Was highlighted during the in game, its the 12th time in Teague's 16 games that we have given up a 30 pt swing. Thats very concerning for mine.

[Gointocarlton]

Very quiet on this site after a loss.

[ElwoodBlues1]

Very quiet on this site after a loss.

Its all been said...in fact most of us revisit the same topics and outcomes each year and little changes.
I guess we can swap a few deckchairs at selection this week and hope we dodge another iceberg....

[pew2]

nothing has changed we are still slow with ball movement/ bodies soft ,but the band aid by lucky 1pt win takes pressure off

[dodge]

Same old same old - soft gentle kicks from the backline across the ground that miss their targets or are easy to contest.  Backline appearing disorganised because the ball comes in so often, quickly and easily.  Dumb bombs from defense into attack where we have a one on three.  Miss easy shots for a goal, particularly when some momentum is starting to build our way to ensure we don't get too confident and get on a roll.

Maybe it is part of the induction into Carlton that this is what is required at the club!