Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

[ElwoodBlues1]

Not one to mince words EB1! :o

Just calling it like is LP.....Stanley was the ideal specimen for Pittonet to bully, the raw Esava Ratugolea provided more competition. Conversely Marshall is an athlete but can also handle the body on body stuff too.

[Milhanna13]

Yep blaming the umps is an easy out for lack of effort, when you play and attack the ball properly most times the umpiring looks after itself. The scoreboard flattered us and the umpiring had nothing to do with the result.

Except that virtually the first play of the game was McGOvern copping 2 hands in the back, in the square - nothing.  Then 2 of StKIlda's first 3 goals from dubious frees and/or 50s.  Then, late in the 3rd, as we were pushing to get back into it, a couple of tide-turning frees that killed all our momentum.

Whether they were correct or not - the decisions (or lack of) made a huge difference in the game

[LP]

Just calling it like is LP.....Stanley was the ideal specimen for Pittonet to bully, the raw Esava Ratugolea provided more competition. Conversely Marshall is an athlete but can also handle the body on body stuff too.

 Careful, you'll be labelled a Pittonet hater!

[Gointocarlton]

Except that virtually the first play of the game was McGOvern copping 2 hands in the back, in the square - nothing.  Then 2 of StKIlda's first 3 goals from dubious frees and/or 50s.  Then, late in the 3rd, as we were pushing to get back into it, a couple of tide-turning frees that killed all our momentum.

Whether they were correct or not - the decisions (or lack of) made a huge difference in the game

Rubbish, look at it again, there was no push in the back, Gov was milking it looking for a free and looked farken stupid if you ask me. I know this because I yelled the same as you then when I saw the reply from the different angle, it was clear. He's better off focusing on getting a bloody kick through hard work and nouse. There is not such thing as tide turning free kick, its just BS made up by supporters of the losing team. Do you hear the winning team supporters say "gee those decisions really turned the tide in our favour". I'll give you a clue, the answer starts with N and ends in O.

[Macca37]

I could cop last night's result if we had a list sprinkled with a few b graders and the rest c and d graders who gave their all every week but whose lack of ability caused us to be beaten by better sides week in week out.

What I can't cop is a side with so many top picks that displays mental and/or physical fragility week in week out.  We never know who is going to turn up at any given match.

We have not had one match where the majority of players have given their best for the whole game.

It's like Groundhog Day.  Go back to match review threads of six years or more, before the rebuild, and the complaints then were the same as now.

We supporters deserve better.  Carlton this century reminds me of Melbourne in the last 45 years of last century:
promised the Pot of Gold at the end of the Rainbow but always just out of reach.

Until we recruit a few players in the mid-field such as Mitch Robinson who will play with aggression all day and not take a backward step, we will continue to be pushed around and anchored to the bottom of the ladder.

[Micky0]

I could cop last night's result if we had a list sprinkled with a few b graders and the rest c and d graders who gave their all every week but whose lack of ability caused us to be beaten by better sides week in week out.

What I can't cop is a side with so many top picks that displays mental and/or physical fragility week in week out.  We never know who is going to turn up at any given match.

We have not had one match where the majority of players have given their best for the whole game.

It's like Groundhog Day.  Go back to match review threads of six years or more, before the rebuild, and the complaints then were the same as now.

We supporters deserve better.  Carlton this century reminds me of Melbourne in the last 45 years of last century:
promised the Pot of Gold at the end of the Rainbow but always just out of reach.

Until we recruit a few players in the mid-field such as Mitch Robinson who will play with aggression all day and not take a backward step, we will continue to be pushed around and anchored to the bottom of the ladder.

Agree,

Even after last weeks game where they were saying this will add to their belief that they can - just get the fck in with it - why can’t we have ruthless hard arsed competitors?

[Baggers]

Teams don't fear us, you need presence as well as skill and we don't have it.
We have a list of Von Trapp nice kids and no mongrels...

In cricketing terms... EB1 dances down the pitch and belts the cherry back over the bowler's head and into row 17 of the grandstand on the full.

[Baggers]

Lets be brutally honest and call a vanga a vanga as Ol Mate PaulyP would say, the Geelong game was an aberration as far as where Carlton's at is concerned. Its good to be positive and optimistic but the Melb and StK performances wipe any positives from my mind. I'm am sick to death of "we showed we can compete with the best".

The unpalatable truth. I'm reluctant to admit it but I wonder if the Pussycats disrespected us by playing a severely underdone Steven which may have just been the difference. Also reluctant to admit that we could be quite easily 0-5... not a win for some time with genuine authority, when was our last convincing victory by a handsome margin against a half decent opponent in good form?

Ps What the hell is a vanga?

[laj]

The unpalatable truth. I'm reluctant to admit it but I wonder if the Pussycats disrespected us by playing a severely underdone Steven which may have just been the difference. Also reluctant to admit that we could be quite easily 0-5... not a win for some time with genuine authority, when was our last convincing victory by a handsome margin against a half decent opponent in good form?

Ps What the hell is a vanga?

Other way for me. There are no aberrations, Geelong game just shows you have the ability as does 8-8 in the last 16 games, which should've been alot better with a better attitude. Simply means the side can play with the right application. The issue is we don't come to play each week and that is 80% of our issues. We should've had 11 wins from those 16 games with we turned up in the first qtr. Fact is we have pissed 8 points down the drain this year by not being switched on. Essentially, should be in the 8 with the right work rate but we're not.

[PaulP]

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Ps What the hell is a vanga?

Vanga is the italian word for spade, as in let's call a spade a spade.