Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 5: Carlton vs St. Kilda

[Gointocarlton]

Agree with almost everything that has been said

I’d be making a serious statement that enough is enough and Carlton won’t stand for ineptitude

I’d be dropping Murphy (effort), Plowman (effort/skill), Newnes (skill), Philp (not ready)

I’d play Casboult at CHB, Weitering FB
Jones on the wing or centre to provide big body support (and away from defence) to Cripps
McKay CHF, McGovern FF and Silvagni HFF.

Ins Silvagni, Honey (tough), Fisher, LOB.

As painful as it may sound, I was thinking last night it may be time to move Jones fwd again. At least he attacks the contest these days. I'd drop Mackay in a heartbeat, he was pathetic last night.

[PaulP]

I refuse to (as I always try to) partake discussion around umpiring, other than to say Carlton are the best at giving away stupid frees and 50s. There was absolutely no need to dump players after they had disposed of the ball, its poor and undisciplined. Its a weak as piss to bring it up IMO, it covers up Carlton's shortfalls. And can I say, Carlton supporters are the worst at it. I got a mate of mine who text me during games and ALWAYS "the umpires this, the umpires that", its BS AFAIC! Get our crap together Carlton and umpiring (good or bad) goes away. I heard nothing (or at least SFA) on umpiring after the Geel and Cheats games (ie W's), it seems to get highlighted most when we lose.

Agree 100%.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I refuse to (as I always try to) partake discussion around umpiring, other than to say Carlton are the best at giving away stupid frees and 50s. There was absolutely no need to dump players after they had disposed of the ball, its poor and undisciplined. Its a weak as piss to bring it up IMO, it covers up Carlton's shortfalls. And can I say, Carlton supporters are the worst at it. I got a mate of mine who text me during games and ALWAYS "the umpires this, the umpires that", its BS AFAIC! Get our crap together Carlton and umpiring (good or bad) goes away. I heard nothing (or at least SFA) on umpiring after the Geel and Cheats games (ie W's), it seems to get highlighted most when we lose.

Yep blaming the umps is an easy out for lack of effort, when you play and attack the ball properly most times the umpiring looks after itself. The scoreboard flattered us and the umpiring had nothing to do with the result.

[Lods]

As painful as it may sound, I was thinking last night it may be time to move Jones fwd again. At least he attacks the contest these days. I'd drop Mackay in a heartbeat, he was pathetic last night.

Funnily enough I was thinking exactly the same thing myself last night when he took a good mark up the field a bit.
He'd provide a contest that we now have the small forwards to exploit and his pack marking is solid.

Of  course the problem would be that we really don't have anyone to take his place down back.

[Professer E]

100% emphatic NO to moving Jones forward.  Been there done that no good.

Personally I'd ruck him or run him on the wing and tell him to smash bodies.  He's good at "chaos" play.

[townsendcalling]

If our midfield is so crap, how did we dominate over Danger, Selwood, Ablett, Duncan, Miers etc???

[PaulP]

If our midfield is so crap, how did we dominate over Danger, Selwood, Ablett, Duncan, Miers etc???

I'm not sure that's correct. We won the Cats game in the air. Our aerial game was brilliant that day. Fantastic work rate and skill by ball carrier and receiver - out marked them comprehensively. If you look at ground ball, I think it was in their favour - they won the clearances, I50's, tackles, scoring shots etc.

[ElwoodBlues1]

If our midfield is so crap, how did we dominate over Danger, Selwood, Ablett, Duncan, Miers etc???

They had a crape soft ruck in Stanley who was well beat by Pittonet and played the likes of Narkle on Cripps and did zero homework on our players and played with total arrogance. Cripps and Docherty were BOG wallpapering the cracks again, check out the stats of our other mids that night...Martin excepted. Geelong were crap but we fell in thanks to Eddie laying that tackle in the middle of the ground and Ablett missing an easy goal.
Ratten had the kryptonite for Cripps with Steele, was smart enough to cover Docherty too and the rest of the Von Trapp kids couldnt handle it apart from Martin.
Marshall was always going to be tough work for Pittonet given his athletic ability and Ratten didnt really rest him either and give us a break..

[LP]

They had a crape soft ruck in Stanley ..................

Not one to mince words EB1! :o

[Gointocarlton]

If our midfield is so crap, how did we dominate over Danger, Selwood, Ablett, Duncan, Miers etc???

Lets be brutally honest and call a vanga a vanga as Ol Mate PaulyP would say, the Geelong game was an aberration as far as where Carlton's at is concerned. Its good to be positive and optimistic but the Melb and StK performances wipe any positives from my mind. I'm am sick to death of "we showed we can compete with the best".