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Post Game Analysis: AFL 2020 Rd 2: Carlton vs Melbourne
(06-16-2020, 01:14 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Teague is no doubt under intense pressure and I have no doubt that he will be gone if we don't see some better results in what's left of this season. I sure get the feeling that he is a left over from a previous era unfortunately and not really in favour with the current regime.

Scary with Ross Lyon floating around.
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(06-16-2020, 01:14 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Teague is no doubt under intense pressure and I have no doubt that he will be gone if we don't see some better results in what's left of this season. I sure get the feeling that he is a left over from a previous era unfortunately and not really in favour with the current regime.
If we get rid of Teague after one interrupted season, we will be forever more a non entity.
That's not how you change culture. That's going to ruin our club.
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(06-16-2020, 01:30 AM)Hubba link Wrote:Scary with Ross Lyon floating around.

Yep, Lurking and filling in time in the media, Lyon cant win premierships but he can get teams into finals.
Liddle and crew need finals to justify culling Bolton and if we lose vs Geelong I think thats probably it for 2020 and heads will drop.
Its set up for Lyon IMO...not a case of if but when......
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(06-16-2020, 01:36 AM)deags link Wrote:If we get rid of Teague after one interrupted season, we will be forever more a non entity.
That's not how you change culture. That's going to ruin our club.

I can't see that happening, no matter how bad the season is. Even by Carlton standards, that would be a new low.

I think there's a real chance we could be 0-4 after Geelong and Essendon (no easy beats IMO), but I think we will win more in the latter stages of the season, as long as we can stay relatively injury free.
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(06-16-2020, 01:36 AM)deags link Wrote:If we get rid of Teague after one interrupted season, we will be forever more a non entity.
That's not how you change culture. That's going to ruin our club.

Peak stupid if we do that, let alone even consider it.  100% concur with that comment.  After 11 games?
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(06-16-2020, 01:58 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I can't see that happening, no matter how bad the season is. Even by Carlton standards, that would be a new low.

I think there's a real chance we could be 0-4 after Geelong and Essendon (no easy beats IMO), but I think we will win more in the latter stages of the season, as long as we can stay relatively injury free.

I cant see it happening either, but the conspiracy theorists have our upper echelons biding their time to get Lyon in.
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(06-16-2020, 02:02 AM)deags link Wrote:I cant see it happening either, but the conspiracy theorists have our upper echelons biding their time to get Lyon in.

Lyon's record at 2 no hoper clubs is pretty good, but the coaching merry go round has to stop.

My concern is the potential lack of wins will see the media do their sh1t all over again, and I'm not sure that our club is strong enough to resist and push back. Their record in this space up to now has been appalling.
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The club is weak as piss.
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Teague was pretty much put in there as a caretaker and would have been replaced but for his initial results, which were an inconvenient truth for the ruling cabal. I would bet that these results are now long forgotten and the current default  position would be to move him on, quoting their reservations about training wheels perhaps being justified after all. Sure there will be a flurry in the media and with some supporters but a suitable narrative to deal with that will be created. I just cannot see Teaguey getting another year unless actual results make sacking him impossible. That does NOT mean I agree with sacking him btw.
Reality always wins in the end.
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(06-16-2020, 02:16 AM)deags link Wrote:The club is weak as piss.

Not only that, but I'm also wondering how much they're on the same page. In Ratten's era, there were some power brokers who saw him as a caretaker until we got a (yawn) "real" coach, and as such gave him little support - that's disunity. In the lead up to Bolton's sacking, both Judd and LoGiudice said Bolts wasn't going anywhere, and I think they were telling the truth. I don't think it was a cover up. Clearly others disagreed, and he was gone. Again, disunity.

I really hope those days are over, but from my vantage point, I can't tell one way or the other.
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