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West Coast got pumped by Gold Coast....
It's been a very weird year.
Even discounting the deplorable first quarter, we should have won that in a canter but for terrible kicking.
The kicking at goal, from relatively easy positions, in benign conditions, was below sub standard.
Our midfield was down, Pittonet aside (terrific debut), and our forward line was a mess, ditto the delivery I50.
We'll improve markedly from that effort.
Of bigger concern was a lot of our guys looked to be holding back/waiting for someone else to do the heavy lifting.
Unacceptable at this level.
Would be getting McGovern's eyes checked - he missed a lot of marks by a wide margin, despite being in a great position to mark.
Bad news for Newman, obviously. But great that Willo can now come in...
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Setterfield had been a bitter disappointment. Ditto Kennedy and the rest of the acquired midfielders.
The drafted midfielders need to step up as well. Somebody needs to grab the ring, or too be frank, time to piss them off and get a new batch in.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?
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The biggest issue we just cant overcome was again on show yesterday - Had the match on our terms for the last 3 quarters when Cripps goal got us to one point down it at that stage the game was our to lose. They were on there knees waiting for the knockout punch but we have no one who can deliver it.
If rolls were swapped yesterday I can tell you Melbourne would have kicked the last goal to take the points.
I reckon I can think of 10 times in the last 2 years we had games in the last quarter that was ours to take but we fail time and time again. Our culture is a losing one and has been for the that long its now ingrained.
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Quote:Solutions?
- Martin to a wing (wasted up forward) YES
- Murphy forward (he’s clever)
- SPS into the middle which is why we drafted him. YES
- Curnow to be instructed not to kick into 50 (handpass off or go sideways if need be) YES
- one of Silvagni or Kennedy plus Gibbons to help Cripps as extra inside miss, with players like SPS, Walsh, Dow, Fisher, Philp, Cunningham to finish.
- Lang, Newnes, Setterfield to prove themselves in lower leagues subject to our VFL form YES
Murphy gets one more chance, just doesn't give enough.
Setters out. Pathetic.
Lang was ok but SOJ or Kennedy better by some margin.
Newnes injured? O'Brien the obvious replacement.
Philp in too - some outside zing is needed.
Our defensive midfield effort is a disgrace.
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It's hardly the Monopoly "get out of jail card" in such an idiotic ill considered season but it should have presented the opportunity to at least correct some of the failings and stamp the head coach's authority. We have too many "mini managers" masquerading and taking a pay cheque under false pretences.
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(06-14-2020, 12:42 AM)shawny link Wrote:The biggest issue we just cant overcome was again on show yesterday - Had the match on our terms for the last 3 quarters when Cripps goal got us to one point down it at that stage the game was our to lose. They were on there knees waiting for the knockout punch but we have no one who can deliver it.
If rolls were swapped yesterday I can tell you Melbourne would have kicked the last goal to take the points.
I reckon I can think of 10 times in the last 2 years we had games in the last quarter that was ours to take but we fail time and time again. Our culture is a losing one and has been for the that long its now ingrained. Our three big forwards need to sort out a system.
Harry looked rusty, the Guv just stuffs up too much presently.
Our forward 6 looked squashed up, there was no space....plenty of talent there but wasn't working at all yesterday.
Won the I50 count easily....
Everyone knows we should have won that game yesterday, even after Q1.
It's on out leadership group to step up. That where tight games get won....
Cripps can't do it every week.
Weiters was very, very good.
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(06-14-2020, 12:45 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Murphy gets one more chance, just doesn't give enough.
Setters out. Pathetic.
Lang was ok but SOJ or Kennedy better by some margin.
Newnes injured? O'Brien the obvious replacement.
Philp in too - some outside zing is needed.
Our defensive midfield effort is a disgrace.
You have changed your thoughts Fly?
Wasn't Setterfield, Lang and Newnes going to be the answers to our midfield depth issues. We just keep swapping one dud for another.
Will be another big broom go thru the place end of this year
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(06-14-2020, 12:42 AM)shawny link Wrote:...............................................
I reckon I can think of 10 times in the last 2 years we had games in the last quarter that was ours to take but we fail time and time again. Our culture is a losing one and has been for the that long its now ingrained.
I agree 100%. But I think last night we just ran our of time. I'm not in any way suggesting that everything is hunky dory - there's still problems that need fixing, and there still pieces of the puzzle missing, but we had them on toast.
That final step of a winning mindset is the hardest to achieve. We were in the lead in the 4th in 4 games of Bolton's 2019 season, and just couldn't get it done. We can still see the same issue now. I say it's partly youth, partly self belief, partly questionable skills, partly decision making, partly kicking for goal. It will come, but not nearly as soon as we all want IMO.
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(06-14-2020, 12:45 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Murphy gets one more chance, just doesn't give enough.
Setters out. Pathetic.
Lang was ok but SOJ or Kennedy better by some margin.
Newnes injured? O'Brien the obvious replacement.
Philp in too - some outside zing is needed.
Our defensive midfield effort is a disgrace. Not sure about O'brien helping much, rather try Philp and get Williamson back in.
Might try Mcgovern down back and get Jack back in to play forward.
Also think about Kennedy to play down forward on Stewart who tears us a new one most games as no one
picks him up and its stupid how many easy kicks he gets.
Our scouting and pre planning is also horrendous, how many times do we see the same opposition players
playing well year after year against us and we dont do anything different.
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(06-14-2020, 12:49 AM)shawny link Wrote:You have changed your thoughts Fly?
Wasn't Setterfield, Lang and Newnes going to be the answers to our midfield depth issues. We just keep swapping one dud for another.
Will be another big broom go thru the place end of this year
Lang was never an answer as a mid and I doubt I ever said as such....i can see why they picked him up (what 3 years ago now?) but he's had injuries and simply doesn't do enough now. Philp for him is a no brainer.
But, why hasn't had been given a crack in the guts?
The other two simply aren't getting their job done....still have high hopes for Setters, Newnes always just a soldier but didn't even do that last night.
That said, all of them were off the pace for a lot of it last night.
Who's our midfield coach? Big, big FAIL.
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