CV and mad panic behaviour

[shawny]

Another pandemic on the horizon?

H5N1 is infecting millions of animals. If it crosses over to humans, it will be worse than COVID, Salon.

Hmmm … a bird flu with 53% mortality in humans would be a nightmare if it mutates to allow human to human transmission. At least there are vaccines and anti-virals available. And even better, anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown era will be the first to go if it ever reaches pandemic proportions.

Dan quick lock up the playgrounds

[LP]

Dan quick lock up the playgrounds

Aren't you from WA?

[Mav]

Going after Mark McGowan would be futile though. He’s far too popular given the strength he showed during the pandemic.

[LP]

Going after Mark McGowan would be futile though. He’s far too popular given the strength he showed during the pandemic.

McGowan had this huge indigenous population that was alleged to be far more vulnerable to the virus, the same demographic was also highly resistant to the vaccination, and we know nefarious types targeted the fears of remote indigenous populations early on in the pandemic.

I don't get the slamming Dan scenario, given the effectiveness of the WA border closure, we could just as easily criticise Dan for not going as hard as McGowan.

I'm not sure where to place NSW in all this, they seemed to get preferential service from the Feds under Scomo, and yet NSW seems to have caused the most carnage to the wider economy and health of the population. The NSW actions in locking down later and opening up earlier seem to have caused the exact opposite of the intention.

Not sure Qld can be judged much either way, it looks like that at least for Sars-CoV-2 the safest place to be assuming you can get access to medical care as required is somewhere in the tropics.

[Mav]

Let’s not forget Dan did get to Covid zero before the infected from Sydney brought it back to Melbourne. And when it became clear that Omicron could no longer be contained, the approach in Victoria shifted. No doubt his critics would say that there was never any point trying to contain Covid as it was always going to mutate. I assume some of them also believed that Putin would conquer Ukraine in 3 days.

[Professer E]

Wonder who was running the show when the Perth Mint started diddling the gold standards.  Now there's something people should be up in arms over.

[LP]

Wonder who was running the show when the Perth Mint started diddling the gold standards.  Now there's something people should be up in arms over.

In fairness to the mint, I believe it complies with globally accepted standards, 4.0 purity(99.99%) and usually supplies above 4.0 with something like 4.5(99.995).

China sits outside those standards, oddly it doesn't require higher purity but it does cap the level of impurities. It's standard practise to "water down" gold to 4.0, usually something less valuable like silver, copper or titanium. What China requires is that any one of those trace metals doesn't exceed a certain threshold, in a way it's China fiddling the books, gaming the system, so that it receives higher purity gold than other nations. I suppose when you think about it, given countries trade in billions and trillions of dollars worth of gold, it adds up in the parts per million.

Managing the purity as close to 4.0 as possible saves a country many millions or even billions of dollars.

For most metals the term commercially pure is used, typically this means the content is above 4.0, it may also mean that certain impurities are minimised or absent, commonly oxygen or hydrogen content are the main concern. Some metals have critical trace element levels, like copper levels in aluminium or titanium.

[Gointocarlton]

Let’s not forget Dan did get to Covid zero before the infected from Sydney brought it back to Melbourne. And when it became clear that Omicron could no longer be contained, the approach in Victoria shifted. No doubt his critics would say that there was never any point trying to contain Covid as it was always going to mutate. I assume some of them also believed that Putin would conquer Ukraine in 3 days.

I think Andrews and Sutton did as good a job as they could under trying circumstances. Lots of uncertainty and  unknowns. If they had have "let it rip", the unacceptable death toll would be the topic today's discussion. I'm glad they were  conservative and cautious, public safety was his no.1 goal.

[DJC]

I think Andrews and Sutton did as good a job as they could under trying circumstances. Lots of uncertainty and  unknowns. If they had have "let it rip", the unacceptable death toll would be the topic today's discussion. I'm glad they were  conservative and cautious, public safety was his no.1 goal.

I think that all of our governments did a pretty good job under the circumstances.

If you look at the current scientific literature, folk who know their stuff are still concerned about the impacts of COVID on health systems and the vulnerable, as well as the ongoing effects of long COVID.  It's laughable that self-taught epidemiologists are claiming that we got it wrong.

By the way, I'm still a NOVID despite being fairly relaxed about mask wearing and social contacts 

[Gointocarlton]

I think that all of our governments did a pretty good job under the circumstances.

If you look at the current scientific literature, folk who know their stuff are still concerned about the impacts of COVID on health systems and the vulnerable, as well as the ongoing effects of long COVID.  It's laughable that self-taught epidemiologists are claiming that we got it wrong.

By the way, I'm still a NOVID despite being fairly relaxed about mask wearing and social contacts 

Depends on the settings you attend, I have 4 family members who went on a cruise, got back last week all with Covid.