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(04-11-2022, 02:42 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:Agree, the amount of young people with cardiac issues isn't normal.
Having a entire cardiac rehab group full of young people isn't normal and that's the staffs opinion not mine.
Not just myocarditis either, these are people with blood clots causing blockages.
Bells Palsy cases are 3.5 - 7 times higher after Covid vaccinations according to some studies.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanin...5/fulltext That is not quite what the paper states, you need to be careful when quoting.
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During a trial some recipients get a placebo, and in the study there was no correction for recipients who previously suffered Bell's Palsy. It's expected that like Guillain-Barre Syndrome some infections, vaccinations and other causes of inflammation might trigger a reoccurrence. But these people will still investigate it because there is a correlation.
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(04-11-2022, 12:49 AM)Mav link Wrote:As the mRNA vaccines don't contain live virus, would they even have the ability to kill facial nerves? What are the chances that an immune response generated by this vaccine would be so specific as to kill facial nerves and nothing else? It's all very speculative but very interesting all the same.
I don't bother getting flu shots anymore. I've had it twice. Both times afterwards i've got sick.
Flu shots don't contain a live virus, so i don't think i've gotten sick from that.
However, your body has to fight against that and gets weakened as a result, so if you were not 100% fit before, one of the numerous viruses/bateria can get a hold that would not have had the chance previously.
Could be the same thing with Covid and bells palsy....or whatever else you wanna bring up.
Its not directly CAUSED by the vaccine, but could be a knock on from getting it.
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(04-11-2022, 08:01 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I don't bother getting flu shots anymore. I've had it twice. Both times afterwards i've got sick.
Flu shots don't contain a live virus, so i don't think i've gotten sick from that.
However, your body has to fight against that and gets weakened as a result, so if you were not 100% fit before, one of the numerous viruses/bateria can get a hold that would not have had the chance previously.
Could be the same thing with Covid and bells palsy....or whatever else you wanna bring up.
Its not directly CAUSED by the vaccine, but could be a knock on from getting it. Daughter In Law had spinal taps which showed high inflammation markers which her doctors said they had seen before in younger women ages 20-30 about 3-4 weeks after the vaccine. She was treated with corticosteroid's and the markers were reduced and one side of her face came back to normal after contracting Bells Palsy. She had been transferred to another hospital that was specializing in this treatment for the condition after being in ER, no visitors, not even close relatives or my son allowed.
She had MRI brain scans and numerous auto immune tests, all negative for any other underlying causes.....no conclusive diagnosis and no denial that the booster could have caused issues just the information that the symptoms may persist for a while.
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Quote:Port Adelaide star Ollie Wines has dismissed suggestions the heart issue he suffered midway through last Thursday night’s loss to Melbourne was triggered by COVID vaccination.
The 27-year-old experienced nausea and dizziness during the AFL game and left Adelaide Oval at halftime to receive further treatment in hospital.
In the days since there has been speculation the heart issue may have been linked to myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle that can potentially be caused by an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine.
However both Wines and his cardiologist have since ruled out that possibility after the star midfielder was released from hospital on Friday evening.
“It’s nothing to do with that (vaccines). It’s completely unrelated,” Wines told reporters on Monday.
“It’s more a heart rhythm issue that is pretty common in elderly people and elite athletes.
“Once it was explained to me it was very reassuring and there’s not too many long-term effects.
“The prognosis is really positive. I’ve got a few more tests to come and to see the cardiologist again but at this stage it’s not a big issue.”
Port Adelaide star Ollie Wines responds to vaccine speculation after heart problem during loss to Melbourne, 7News.com.au
Oh well, that was fun while it lasted.
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I realise that anything COVID now seems old hat, but we had a family member become a statistic overnight. Stay safe people.
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(05-01-2022, 10:47 PM)Professer E link Wrote:I realise that anything COVID now seems old hat, but we had a family member become a statistic overnight. Stay safe people. Numbers climbing back up in the USA, may be time to dust off the mask for winter...
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Their cases and death rates really hit the high in Jan / Feb 2022. After losing over a million people, the graphs now see a dramatic fall. But I've long given up in trusting the reports.
South Korea / Thailand are still getting hit hard.
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(05-01-2022, 10:47 PM)Professer E date Wrote:I realise that anything COVID now seems old hat, but we had a family member become a statistic overnight. Stay safe people. Very sorry to hear that ProfE, the truth doesn't fit with the desires of society or the pending Federal elections, but reality is a lot of genuine experts are still saying this COVID shizen is far far from over!
People should do themselves a big favour and keep staying on the side of caution.
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(04-11-2022, 11:09 AM)Mav date Wrote:Port Adelaide star Ollie Wines responds to vaccine speculation after heart problem during loss to Melbourne, 7News.com.au
Oh well, that was fun while it lasted. We should be thankful not every AFL player is a Jones, I have to commend Wines for taking a higher road!
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(05-01-2022, 10:47 PM)Professer E link Wrote:I realise that anything COVID now seems old hat, but we had a family member become a statistic overnight. Stay safe people. Sorry to hear that Prof
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