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CV and mad panic behaviour
I'm blaming all of them for this fiasco.

Scomo
Dan
Tiley

Clearly they all knew he was coming.

Novak whether you like him or not followed the rules.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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(01-09-2022, 08:03 PM)Thryleon date Wrote:Not surprising.  Novak was born in 1987, and his nation was at war for no less than 7 years in the 1990's.  I believe there was further conflict in the 2000's too.
I believe his family moved from Montenegro to Monte Carlo when he was a teenager!
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The Fed Govt's submissions in response reserve the ABF's right to detain Djokovic again with  view to deporting him even if the Court decides the current case in Djokovic's favour due to procedural error. That's a well-beaten path in refugee cases. 
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Confining myself solely to the way the Judge is engaging with Djokovic's lawyers (and not my own assessments of the parties' cases), I'd place a big bet on Djokovic winning his case. Of course, it isn't even half-time in the case as the Govt's lawyers have yet to speak. But all of the questioning from the Judge suggests he has a very dim view of the behaviour of the ABF/Govt. That's not the usual scenario. Usually a Judge puts each party under pressure by probing their weak points. In this case, he's emphasising Djokovic's strong points and almost taking them further.
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What more could this man have done?
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(01-09-2022, 08:34 PM)LP link Wrote:I believe his family moved from Montenegro to Monte Carlo when he was a teenager!
via Germany at ages 12.

How was his childhood given you seem to know so much about it?

Would we define someone growing up living in ear shot of war, gun shots, bombings as privileged? 

He is one of the lucky ones from his nation, but the Balkans have been invaded and reinvaded longer than Australia was a federated nation, and was at war, as recently as, less than 30 years ago.

The assertion of white male privilege applies to him like it would someone who fled east Timor and settled in Australia.

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Like a reformed smoker.

It's not about where you came from, it's about how you now choose to act around others! Wink

You'd think someone who has allegedly seen and experienced such suffering and hardship would be far far better at reading the room. Instead he doesn't just seem tone deaf, he acts with indignance towards those who have been bitten by the pandemic! :o

It's OK for workers with legitimate reasons for being unvaccinated to lose their job so that Djoker can compete safely in an unvaccinated state, they get nothing from him but a virtual spit in the face, as do the hundreds of unpaid volunteers, many wrapped head to toe in PPE, who donate time and effort to enable his earning million$ and million$!
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Yes, it was terrible that the Serbians refused to stop their Ethnic Cleansing in Kosovo and that resulted in NATO bombing them. Whether or not NATO committed war crimes by bombing the Serbians, I'll leave to the the historians and experts in international law. But Serbian leaders were convicted of war crimes, so playing the victim card on Serbia's behalf is a bit surprising.
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(01-10-2022, 02:23 AM)Mav link Wrote:Yes, it was terrible that the Serbians refused to stop their Ethnic Cleansing in Kosovo and that resulted in NATO bombing them. Whether or not NATO committed war crimes by bombing the Serbians, I'll leave to the the historians and experts in international law. But Serbian leaders were convicted of war crimes, so playing the victim card on Serbia's behalf is a bit surprising.
I think this is a rather seperate argument.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/22/sport...index.html

Quote:It's March 24, 1999, and the air strikes on the Serbian capital mark the beginning of what would be a 78-day campaign by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) to try and bring to an end atrocities committed by Yugoslavia's then-president Slobodan Milosevic's troops against ethnic Albanians in the province of Kosovo.
While his father, Srdjan, helped his mother, Dijana, who temporarily lost consciousness after hitting her head against the radiator following the first explosion, Djokovic searched for his brothers, eight-year-old Marko and four-year-old Djordje, in their pitch dark apartment.

"At 11, I was the big brother," the top-ranked Serb wrote in "Serve to win," his 2013 autobiography. "I'd been holding myself responsible for their safety ever since NATO forces started bombing my hometown of Belgrade."

In the first chapter of his autobiography, titled "Backhands and Bomb Shelters," Djokovic vividly recalls the night that changed his life forever.
After Dijana regained consciousness, the Djokovic family entered the unlit streets of Belgrade and tried to make their way to the nearby apartment building of an aunt's family, which had a bomb shelter.
While his parents ran down the streets, holding his younger brothers, Djokovic suddenly found himself all alone after he fell flat on his face in the street.
"And then it happened," Djokovic wrote. "Rising up from over the roof of our building came the steel gray triangle of an F-117 bomber."
"What happened next would never leave me," he said. "Even today, loud sounds fill me with fear."
The bomber dropped two laser-guided missiles right over his head, which struck a hospital building a few streets away.
"I remember the sandy, dusty, metallic shell in the air, and how the whole city seemed to glow like a ripe tangerine," Djokovic said in his book.
The streets now covered in light, Djokovic spotted his parents and brothers in the far distance, and chased after them until they all reached the concrete shelter safely.
There were about 20 families hiding in the shelter.
"There were children crying. I didn't stop shivering for the rest of the night," Djokovic said in his book.
In a 2015 interview with CNN television, Djokovic recalled the bombing campaign, during which he and his family would spend each night in the shelter from 8 p.m., and only had electricity for a few hours each day.
"Those times are certainly something that I don't wish for anybody to experience," he said. "Two-and-a-half months, every single day and night, bombs coming into the city. We saw planes flying over our heads, and literally rockets and bombs landing half a mile away."

You don't have to like him, you don't have to empathise with the Serbs.  You don't have to like them either (in my experience, most anglo saxons, hate people from the balkans anyway)  but to label someone who went through that, white male and privliged??

Nup.  Sorry, thats crap.

If you didnt see war in your nation when you were 12, you cant comment here and call him privileged.


(01-10-2022, 02:17 AM)LP link Wrote:Like a reformed smoker.

It's not about where you came from, it's about how you now choose to act around others! Wink

You'd think someone who has allegedly seen and experienced such suffering and hardship would be far far better at reading the room. Instead he doesn't just seem tone deaf, he acts with indignance towards those who have been bitten by the pandemic! :o

It's OK for workers with legitimate reasons for being unvaccinated to lose their job so that Djoker can compete safely in an unvaccinated state, they get nothing from him but a virtual spit in the face, as do the hundreds of unpaid volunteers, many wrapped head to toe in PPE, who donate time and effort to enable his earning million$ and million$!

I actually dont think anyone should have lost their job over being vaccinated, particularly with our current outcomes and landscape.  I can state that I know of vaccinated people hospitalised with Covid, and I can also state I know of unvaccinated people who have experienced COVID, and have not needed any health or hospital help.

Its all a sliding scale, and the one size fits all approach is problematic.  Professional athletes are risking their lives and livelihood, and as it turns out make no difference to anyone elses risk profile.

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No matter what happened in their past, nobody gets a free hit at being an ar5ehole to the rest of humanity!

White male privilege isn't a birth right, you have to earn it by your actions! Wink
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