CV and mad panic behaviour

[capcom]

Just look at the vaccination rates in these African countries!!! ... few higher than 22%

Pretty effin' obvious.  Shoot, I'm angry.

[LP]

Just look at the vaccination rates in these African countries!!! ... few higher than 22%

Pretty effin' obvious.  Shoot, I'm angry.

Have you had your booster, that would make 3 shots for you, most in Africa have 0?

It's not always about wilful dissent, sometimes it is about lack of opportunity. Pfizer, AZ, J&J, Moderna, Novavax, etc., etc., have all come out overnight making a joint statement and asked people to obey the rules, because they know that if the public can't behave in a manner that slows transmission the cause is lost. Those companies need the Western society to behave itself, so that they can direct the resources to the 3rd world. Instead we march!

[capcom]

That's no reason to allow any of them to fly, not when their destination is Australia.  Ban them and the airlines that carry them.

[Baggers]

It's interesting to observe, I have 1st hand contact with several dissenting objectors, they object to the masks, they object to the vaccines, they don't believe COVID is serious and object to the restrictions. But both got vaccinated and wore masks when COVID got close to home! Both stopped breaking the rules. The irony is this, the minute they were in the clear they went back to objecting, they can't help it, it is what they do, they are slaves to the conspiracy meme!

Never underestimate the power of human denial. Ignore-ance.

In my line of work we often come across a similar dynamic... eventually. Plenty of people (sadly, mostly males) who, when confronted with strong mental health issues/symptoms, do nothing. Why? Because, "If I don't see a shrink and I don't take medication, then I haven't got xyz." Yep, very real. How many blokes ignore enlarged prostate symptoms? Fear... and fear breeds ignorance.

[cookie2]

@ Baggers
Denial is also a powerful driver Baggers. If something doesn't fit with a person's deeply held beliefs or is an inconvenient truth then denial can come into play, often for otherwise quite intelligent individuals.

[Thryleon]

Do you really believe that if a further vaccine shot is required the removal of mandates will result in fewer people skipping their jab than if mandates are retained?  If so, where is the proof either in Australia or worldwide?

I believe that when you make someone do something, anything that they are not sure about, their first inclination is to say, no.

I believe that these same people would suffer from FOMO, and that they would eventually roll up their sleeves and give in without a mandate because rightly or wrongly the virus is here to stay.

In essence, we drove a lot of people who would have gotten their vaccine away from making this decision, and simply recruited a bunch that got vaccinated reluctantly and as a future consequence, will likely end up with fewer protected when the time comes to roll up your sleeve again.

Unlike you, I do not believe that people who hold views different from mine are either arrogant or know better.

I entertain all ideas before I accept them.  Perhaps I am guilty of being ignorant to the large swathes of people out there, and that mandating was the best way to get it across the line, but I do know that a lot of the people who initially have rebelled are going to feel very vindicated if the vaccine doesn't do anything to curb the virus but now we have multiple issues to fight.

We now have a bunch of people who have no scope to earn an income, in a society that is largely vaccinated, facing the prospects of future mask wearing, and restrictions who are not going to do it.

The government will have a much larger group of people thumbing their noses at the rules, refusing to social distance, and will absolutely ditch the masks, and they will simply point to Omicron, the statistics, call everyone a bunch of sheeple for believing the government knows what its doing.


I stated this not long ago for a reason.  The quickest way to create an anti vaccer, is to mandate a vaccine.  To mandate a vaccine that has proven to be largely ineffective, is the quickest way to abuse the trust that those who had faith in you had.  That simpy means to larger alienation.

Remember the latest lockdown?  How tired of it everyone was, so they did as they pleased, and irrespective of what the scribes on here say, our journey with Delta is proving to be way more damaging, because of what we went through in 2020?

Those who are fail to learn the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them.  Our control measures are simply going to be ignored moving forward, because everyone is completely over it, and has had enough of it all, and next mandate possibly wont go as successfully as a consequence, and the shame in it is that if our journey with COVID to date is indicative of the future, things are only going to get worse.

Oh, and for anyone not paying attention, Omicron is already on our shores in hotel quarantine, and one of those passengers has already visited victoria over the weekend according to my gossip.

[sandsmere]

That's no reason to allow any of them to fly, not when their destination is Australia.  Ban them and the airlines that carry them.

Agree 100%.

[Thryleon]

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victo...59cxy.html

[Thryleon]

Does anyone happen to have a theory on why the latest variant of concern seems to have skipped over two of the Greek letters in the alphabet?

After Lambda, its Mu, Nu, Xi then Omicron, but they seem to have danced over two letters.

Popular opinion is because Xi (pronounced by the anglicized version sounding more like Gi phonetically) is because its remarkably similar sounding to the Chinese leaders name (Ji Jing Ping).

The stupidity in it, is thats actually pronounced Ksi, and sounds more like an X sound, so dont know why they would skip it, and why they bastardise the pronounciation of the Greek alphabet so much (Mu, is more of a Mi sound).

[ElwoodBlues1]

The Who's second largest benefactor is China so we can't associate them with Covid origins by having names that make them upset can we...