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CV and mad panic behaviour
https://au.yahoo.com/news/wont-be-happen...21323.html
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The labour governments are tearing this country apart, I can't see myself ever voting for them again.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
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(11-10-2021, 08:25 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:https://au.yahoo.com/news/wont-be-happen...21323.html

Very interesting.

As a vaccinated person, I dont have an issue either way, but can you imagine the litigation that comes in, if someone contracts COVID at this premises? 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(11-10-2021, 09:22 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Very interesting.

As a vaccinated person, I dont have an issue either way, but can you imagine the litigation that comes in, if someone contracts COVID at this premises? 
As you know you can still carry Covid(reduced load) if you are vaxxed and infect other vaxxed/unvaxxed customers and I guess some customers might have medical exemptions but clearly the owner doesnt care and wants his coin rather than following the rules. Even in Victoria mask wearing seems optional for some people indoors and social distancing seems to have waned as well especially in supermarkets where you get customers breathing down your neck at the checkout who wont stick to their spot on the ground and want to rush you through.
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https://au.yahoo.com/news/chinas-major-c...06690.html

Hope Dan doesnt read this....
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I spoke to a guy in his 20's who just got his second jab a week ago.

Now had ongoing heart symptoms but has been cleared by his doctor.

Doesn't want his booster when its time.

Understandable. 

Apparently his doctor has seen it in 20 to 25% of his patients.

I told him to follow his doctor's orders and if having some heart issues get to hospital rather than dilly dally or wait.  People are happy to waste an ED'S time at the best of times, so having heart issues should see you go in.

Is anyone else coming across this? 

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
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(11-10-2021, 11:52 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I spoke to a guy in his 20's who just got his second jab a week ago.

Now had ongoing heart symptoms but has been cleared by his doctor.

Doesn't want his booster when its time.

Understandable. 

Apparently his doctor has seen it in 20 to 25% of his patients.

I told him to follow his doctor's orders and if having some heart issues get to hospital rather than dilly dally or wait.  People are happy to waste an ED'S time at the best of times, so having heart issues should see you go in.

Is anyone else coming across this? 
Had one family member who had Pfizer come down with chest pains and was taken to hospital by ambulance.
30 year old fit police officer who looks after himself and he was very uncomfortable and stayed in hospital for a couple of days.
As you say Chest Pains jumps you to the top of the waiting list because it can also be heart trouble etc that is not vaccine induced and everyone gets the ECG's, blood tests etc to make sure. Had my Son in law come down with a lump on his collarbone and rash after his initial dose of Moderna, again a very fit strong young bloke in his early 30s. Due for his second dose this Friday and still has the lump, had tests including a ultrasound and it was diagnosed as a vaccine induced Lipoma. It has gone down a little but he is concerned it might flair up again with the next dose.
Boosters I think will be problematic for people who have had  more serious issues and I think LP's idea of a different vaccine to the initial type you had might be a better way to go.
A couple of the ER's I get info about have seen a rise in patients attending for vaccine side effect issues, chest pains of course even mild do create anxiety which amplifies the symptoms and the majority are usually cleared quickly to go home after they have a normal ECG, blood test but they do clog up ER's and its usually the ones with pre existing conditions that require more treatment.
For sure its the male in that late 20's early 30s that seem to be affected more from what I hear..
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Nothing first, second or nth hand, not even any suggestions of any kids in our school or footy teams having any side effects (though there was 1 kid with a positive Covid test). That doesn't undermine what you've been told, I hasten to add. Maybe I'm a mushroom (in my experience, kids don't volunteer much info about anything). 
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(11-10-2021, 12:31 AM)LP link Wrote:They don't discriminate, wealth or poverty, health or illness is no excuse, if you deal drugs on the Asian Peninsula, Thailand, Malaysia or Indonesia, you're gone!

That is how the law should be or else you end up with a wealth based outcomes like the USA, where it comes down to the lawyer you can afford!

Problem is that especially in Thailand money talks AND allows one to walk… google Red Bull heir.
Let’s go BIG !
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(11-10-2021, 01:15 PM)northernblue link Wrote:Problem is that especially in Thailand money talks AND allows one to walk… google Red Bull heir.

My God ... he got away with that?  Unbelievable.  But you're right, corruption runs deep over there.
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