CV and mad panic behaviour

[ElwoodBlues1]

Not with the official death rate in India, and definitely not with the likely death rate.  They were hit very hard.

Agree....about 40% of children in India dont get registered at birth, the authorities cant have accurate figures.
They had cremation grounds in Gujarat that had fires going 24 hours a day burning bodies, dont think they were counting.
Official figures have the death rate getting close to 5 mill but modelling done in the USA reckon its between 2-5 times that..

[LP]

If India's genetic immunity is real we have no idea of when it was gained, the roots of Sars or Sars-CoV-2 could be thousands of years, don't think too recent.

[Mav]

Not only would the Indians have struggled to keep reliable stats on Covid infections and deaths even if they had prioritised that task, I doubt there was the political will to do so. There’s always a temptation for politicians to minimise the extent of a problem that develops under their watch, but Prime Minister Modi had more reason than most to do so. His party ran an election campaign during the pandemic and the campaign relied heavily on Trump-style rallies with massive crowds standing shoulder to shoulder. Critics slammed him over this and the last thing he wanted was official confirmation that Covid deaths had exploded afterwards.

[LP]

Not only would the Indians have struggled to keep reliable stats on Covid infections and deaths even if they had prioritised that task, I doubt there was the political will to do so. There’s always a temptation for politicians to minimise the extent of a problem that develops under their watch, but President Modi had more reason than most to do so. His party ran an election campaign during the pandemic and the campaign relied heavily on Trump-style rallies with massive crowds standing shoulder to shoulder. Critics slammed him over this and the last thing he wanted was official confirmation that Covid deaths had exploded afterwards.

Yes very true, this is no different to Africa and Sth America, even if accuracy was wanted the infrastructure just isn't present to keep a tab on things anyway.

Months ago I read an estimate that reported COVID case counts in Africa might be as much as one quarter of the real case count. But it should not surprise us, because even here, in the UK or the USA the stats do not catch every case.

[ElwoodBlues1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c3rWBSJZTk
My preference if a booster required....

[Professer E]

Mate runs a retail place in Northcote.

In the first three hours yesterday,  verbally abused by 5  customers,  who refused to mask up,  sign in, provide hard copy contact details or  show proof of vaccination as required by the new mandates. 

Massive fines for retailers that are found to have "unregistered" (I can't think of a better word)  people on the premises.

Thanks Dan, you're not the poor bastard who has to enforce the rules you rammed through.

[LP]

My preference if a booster required....

Based on what I have been reading, I think it makes perfect sense to get a cross vaccination as the booster shot.

Firstly, the early results suggest it looks like the key to having a broader spectrum immunity is not to be welded onto any single vaccine. People should be aware that this idea of a blended solution is what has been happening with the influenza vaccines for years so it is not something new or experimental but it is a very old school practise.

Secondly, no one vaccine works for 100% of the population, any single vaccine at best will provide 85% of the population with some protection, but for a different vaccine it might not be the same 85% protected. So by mixing and matching you reduce the number of people who are unprotected.

[Macca37]

I had an unsettling experience yesterday with an anti-vaxxer. I was shopping at a Good Guys store, minding my own business,  when I was approached by a mid-forties male who began talking to me with the fervour of a religious zealot.

In a loud voice he told me that governments (unspecified) were to blame for Covid. Further, he said nobody knows what is in the vaccines and that his research led him to the conclusion that one man was responsible for it all - Bill Gates.

If this guy represents the typical anti-vaxxer then there is no turning them.  His manner was such that I just got out of the store as fast as I could.

[LP]

If this guy represents the typical anti-vaxxer then there is no turning them.  His manner was such that I just got out of the store as fast as I could.

The bell has already been rung!

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All jokes aside, there are a lot of nutters roaming around shopping centres accosting people for wearing masks, etc., etc., they don't get the irony of imposing their space invading will on others!

[Mav]

That was the best response, Macca. Trying to reason with them is like arguing with a toddler. It's an impossible mission: they aren't bound by facts or logic.

Was he wearing a mask or did he believe the mask mandate is just a method malevolent governments have used to inflict hypoxia on people so they're easier to manipulate? Geez, I never want surgeons to operate on me: they've all suffered brain damage from being starved of oxygen in operating theatres ...