CV and mad panic behaviour

[Macca37]

Was near the northern hospital today and counted 12 ambos in a row lined up waiting to drop patients off. Never seen that before and reckon the system is already bursting at the seems.

Those 4000 plus icu beds would have come in handy wouldn’t they. Instead if numbers predicated eventuate as you rightly point out we will pull further ahead in the longest lockdown place on earth regardless of vaccination numbers. The narrative like many aspects of this pandemic that we just need to get vaccinated to return to a normal life is another lie.

Disgusting to think these so called leaders had over 18 months to prepare the health system and as usual they do sfa but talk and then point the fingers elsewhere and find scapegoats at every opportunity when questioned. And while I’m venting the stupidity of federal government to announce that funding will cease once vaccination targets are met makes little sense unless for some reason they want the vaccination numbers to slow up.

It really doesn't matter how many beds and how much equipment you have if you do not have the staff.

I saw an interview with a public hospital specialist the other day who was asked a question relating to numbers of beds and staffing levels.  He said that each covid patient in ICU needed 24 hour attention by two covid trained nurses per shift - a total of six nurses working eight hour shifts. He added that the work was exhausting as the nurses also had to turn the patients in their beds.

He was asked about training and said that an experienced nurse needed an additional 12 months training to work in covid wards but because of the additional workload imposed on staff since covid patients began arriving in hospitals last year there was not enough time to set aside for training.

Another Melbourne public hospital specialist interviewed tonight said his colleagues in Sydney have told him the position is far worse in Sydney hospitals than the public is being told, and staff are exhausted.

Given our hospitals are following hard on the heels of those in NSW it is easy to imagine the collapse of public hospitals in both states when we open up and restrictions ease.

[ElwoodBlues1]

It really doesn't matter how many beds and how much equipment you have if you do not have the staff.

I saw an interview with a public hospital specialist the other day who was asked a question relating to numbers of beds and staffing levels.  He said that each covid patient in ICU needed 24 hour attention by two covid trained nurses per shift - a total of six nurses working eight hour shifts. He added that the work was exhausting as the nurses also had to turn the patients in their beds.

He was asked about training and said that an experienced nurse needed an additional 12 months training to work in covid wards but because of the additional workload imposed on staff since covid patients began arriving in hospitals last year there was not enough time to set aside for training.

Another Melbourne public hospital specialist interviewed tonight said his colleagues in Sydney have told him the position is far worse in Sydney hospitals than the public is being told, and staff are exhausted.

Given our hospitals are following hard on the heels of those in NSW it is easy to imagine the collapse of public hospitals in both states when we open up and restrictions ease.

Yep staff are the key and ICU training is 12 months with or without the Covid training. The RNs who do it also tend to be the best of breed both academic wise as well as practically so it's not for everyone. With pay levels not that much better you are also relying on the most dedicated and who will work double shifts, you don't get many agency fill ins who are ICU trained.

[capcom]

Criminal negligence.  Just wait until this morning's figures are released. 

[capcom]

1438 new cases .... what a stuff up

[madbluboy]

Four CFMEU staff have tested positive to COVID after last week's riots and many others are in quarantine.  It looks like ignoring social distancing and not wearing masks in the open air is a good way to spread the Delta variant.  I wonder how many other rioters and their close contacts have symptoms and are not getting tested.

They were inside the building.

[madbluboy]

Lucky we didn't mock NSW.

[Mav]

Those who wanted to let it rip are getting their wish. But as the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for as you might just get it. And it won’t be pretty.

[madbluboy]

Those who wanted to let it rip are getting their wish. But as the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for as you might just get it. And it won’t be pretty.

Yep, I know a family who has it. Mother and son are the sickest they have ever been by far and they aren't in the hospital figures.

[Mav]

By the way, the NSW vaccine mandate for health workers comes into force tomorrow. We’ll be able to see just how many workers still refuse to vaccinate. Even if that number is substantial, getting rid of the anti-vaxxers is well worth it.

[ElwoodBlues1]

A grad certificate in critical care is 11k at Uni.
A critical care nurse(ICU) gets about $50-60 a week more only, most have to pay parking of around $25 a day. Its also a job where you work a lot of double shifts as their are few agency backups and you can't leave the unit a nurse down. The Government won't fund enough spots at Uni either so most have to pay the 11k. Good luck retaining what's left after Covid burns them all out...