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CV and mad panic behaviour
(09-19-2021, 05:12 AM)ElwoodBlues1 date Wrote:I think asking folk to get Boosters and maintaining vaccination levels at 70-80% might be a hard ask. I wouldnt expect that high a percentage 2nd and 3rd time around.
Many of us get Flu shots every year without question, if the sceptics are correct shouldn't it be one for life?

Why do or should we think a coronavirus vaccine will be different?

Sars-CoV-2 is far far worse than the Flu, why would we be less motivated?

Most of this booster related debate is Certain Uncertainty being promoted by anti-vaxers and COVID sceptics.
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(09-19-2021, 05:14 AM)LP link Wrote:Many of us get Flu shots every year without question, if the sceptics are correct shouldn't it be one for life?

Why do or should we think a coronavirus vaccine will be different?

Sars-CoV-2 is far far worse than the Flu, why would we be less motivated?

Most of this booster related debate is Certain Uncertainty being promoted by anti-vaxers and COVID sceptics.
I'll disagree and the stats show why....The many of us is mainly in the older population....think about 66% over 65 years of age had the flu shot this year.
According to Flutracking, only 45 per cent of Australians 18-64 in 2021 have had their flu vaccine – compared with 71.8 per cent at the same time last year.
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(09-19-2021, 04:31 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Next Pfizer (and ors.) 2 pill a day regime to go in tandem with the never ending boosters.

What's the bet the pills are an Ivermectin copycat? Just 100x the price.
In the same way that ivermectin does no better than placebos in trials but no doubt at 100x the price. Jeez, if you want a placebo, just put a teaspoon of sugar in a glass of water and drink that. That'll save you heaps of running around, you'll be taking in much less sugar than a Coke and it costs a fraction of a cent.
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While I haven't followed this debate closely I'm wondering if anyone on here have chosen not to be vaxed?  I learn't that a family member is an anti vaxer and I find it useless to argue with such idiots, its becomming like politics and religion and to be kept away from polite company.
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Safe bet that Flyboy hasn't been vaccinated and won't be unless the men with the butterfly nets catch him. Now he has a partner in crime in Shawny who may also be a little bit anti-vax. Interestingly, though, Flyboy & Shawny haven't interacted in this thread despite their common interests, so you have to wonder whether they're 2 people or 1.
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(09-19-2021, 08:02 AM)Mav link Wrote:Safe bet that Flyboy hasn't been vaccinated and won't be unless the men with the butterfly nets catch him. Now he has a partner in crime in Shawny who may also be a little bit anti-vax. Interestingly, though, Flyboy & Shawny haven't interacted in this thread despite their common interests, so you have to wonder whether they're 2 people or 1.

Does Flyboy wear a tin hat?
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I think Flyboy and Shawny are two excellent posters entitled to their opinions and its not healthy creating an "us against them culture". CoVid has created this vax vs antivax theme pitting different opinions/posters against each other and I find it a form of bullying when posters are singled out for having a minority/different view and IMO everything is still unresolved in terms of vaccines and outcomes and thats from novice opinions all the way up to the top end to medical professional opinions.


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https://theconversation.com/ivermectin-w...-19-167340

A pretty good snapshot on the current state of play. Worth a read IMO.

What does the data show about ivermectin for treating COVID-19 in people? There are some promising findings in critically ill patients, but more high-quality data needs to be collected, particularly for those with mild or silent COVID. That’s currently in progress.
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(09-19-2021, 08:21 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I think Flyboy and Shawny are two excellent posters entitled to their opinions and its not healthy creating an "us against them culture". CoVid has created this vax vs antivax theme pitting different opinions/posters against each other and I find it a form of bullying when posters are singled out for having a minority/different view and IMO everything is still unresolved in terms of vaccines and outcomes and thats from novice opinions all the way up to the top end to medical professional opinions.

Agree. It’s a great pity that people feel the need to resort to put downs and attacks on the integrity and intelligence of others in order to push their own agendas. The value of this thread has been demeaned as a result imo.
Reality always wins in the end.
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(09-19-2021, 08:02 AM)Mav date Wrote:Flyboy & Shawny haven't interacted in this thread despite their common interests, so you have to wonder whether they're 2 people or 1.
There is an interesting piece of academic software that can establish that, it was originally written to identify plagiarism but it's advanced analysis exposes when posters have too closely matched characteristics like when one person posts under multiple pseudonyms.

But I think it would be cruel, because statistically there will be several bipolar people on here posting under different identities.

In any case, they aren't publishing science or fact despite sometimes wanting it painted as such, they are just publishing opinions and opinions can be shared.

Actually, if you want to win a debate in an online forum using two identities and posting arguments for and against is a great way to garnish support from both sides of the debate, if you are so inclined you can steer a debate towards your preference. But that plagiarism software will expose that, your language is your language of thought, you can't change it. But the tactic is the forum equivalent of Dorothy Dixers, which for me greatly devalues the utility of web forums, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc., etc.. as those sites are rife with such tactics..
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