CV and mad panic behaviour

[Baggers]

But you're back slapping people here saying suicide is not up based on numbers from before our current lockdown? Are you that politically bias or that stupid?

Not backslapping, and political ideology has nothing to do with it. One suicide, anywhere, any time, is one too many. You won't find any insensitivity to any human trauma or suffering from this little black duck. Take it easy, MBB old son. We're all in this together. If you query my motives, just ask me to explain rather than engaging negative accusations. Always happy to oblige.

[Mav]

Better Data on Ivermectin Is Finally on Its Way, Wired.

EDWARD MILLS CAME to the meeting last month with very good data. A clinical trials expert at McMaster University, Mills was presenting new results from a trial that is looking at how well half a dozen different drugs treat Covid-19—not for the people so sick they’re in the emergency room or the hospital, but in people whose symptoms haven’t gotten that bad yet. People sick at home, in other words.

At his online talk, put on by the National Institutes of Health, Mills’ slides told the tale: A relatively safe, familiar, cheap drug reduced the relative risk of mild Covid getting worse by nearly 30 percent. The drug is fluvoxamine, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor—an antidepressant. (It’s also an anti-inflammatory, and inflammation and an overreacting immune system are hallmarks of serious Covid infection, so that might be why it seems to help).

But Ivermectin finished in a statistical dead heat with placebos! So unimpressive was its performance that it's been dumped from the trial )

But political activists didn’t turn metformin into a rhetorical tool; ivermectin has stans so aggressive they make Gamergaters seem chill. Mills says he and his colleagues have been abused and threatened by ivermectin adherents; the trial designers even went through the rigorous process of changing the dosage administered to comport better to the fans’ preferred regimen of three days instead of just one. “We tested, what, seven other drugs? Nobody abuses us about the other drugs. We even showed one of them worked,” Mills tells me. His team touted positive results for fluvoxamine, “and that crowd doesn’t seem to care. If you ask them, ‘Why do you feel so strongly about ivermectin?’ they will say, ‘Because we feel there should be a cheap, effective drug that can be used by poor people.’ OK, well, we have that. We have it with fluvoxamine, and with inhaled budesonide. Why do they not care about those drugs? They don’t have an answer. They just want to talk about ivermectin.”

It's pretty obvious this fixation with Ivermectin is only a figleaf for anti-vaxxers. They get to push an alternative to vaccines as they know they can't just tell people not to take a life-saving vaccine. They get to argue they're not anti-science at all (even though they're unwilling to acknowledge what the scientists say). And it becomes a political rallying point.

[ElwoodBlues1]

I wonder if we will see it here before the end of the year.

NOVAVAX: A “Traditional” VACCINE for COVID-19 soon to be released?
https://youtu.be/DcZIcRCKgss

Novavax is having trouble with funding , production and sourcing of materials. There is another rumour I read that the Government
might have pulled its part of the funding and some are suggesting Pfizer execs might have leaned on the Govt to delay Novavax entering the market.

[LP]

NSW heading to the pub by the end of October, ..................... to toast the dead or dying!

[LP]

Novavax is having trouble with funding , production and sourcing of materials. There is another rumour I read that the Government
might have pulled its part of the funding and some are suggesting Pfizer execs might have leaned on the Govt to delay Novavax entering the market.

There is very little technical reason to push for Novavax if you already have AZ available, the technologies are so similar they could be considered almost identical with the choice of vector making very little difference. The general feedback from regions already using both AZ and Novavax is that the efficacy and side-effect profiles are effectively identical.

Novavax is to AZ, what Moderna is to Pfizer.

Really, the whole Novavax / AZ / Pfizer / Moderna debate is another case of social media spreading "Certain Uncertainty", the Interwebs version of asking someone who has finally made a decision, "ARE YOU SURE?"

FWIW, you can throw a whole bunch of other competing vaccines into this debate, the global differences are so minimal.

[PaulP]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/double-m...58nbu.html

Double masking is the new black.

[LP]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/double-m...58nbu.html

Double masking is the new black.

I'm not a big fan of this bloke, he's an IT researcher but he never states that in his articles, he lets people think he is some sort of health or virology expert.

Now he's alluding that masks were his idea, despite millions in SE Asia wearing them for most of the past 15 years!

When he published his first articles, he made a big deal about cloth masks you make at home, this was on the basis that coronavirus spreads purely by droplets, which turns out to be gravely wrong. While reducing or eliminating droplet transmission helps, it doesn't make you "safe"!

I wonder if he has published anything on a site like The Conversation, if so it would be interesting to read the feedback!

I led a scientific team that in April 2020 wrote the first and largest evidence review of masks effectiveness against the spread of COVID-19. I published an op-ed in The Washington Post and formed the #Masks4All movement that kick-started mask wearing in the US and globally. High-quality masks were not available then. So, we focused on studying cloth masks, which people could make themselves.

This sort of stuff is like claiming, I've read all the literature from many other hard workers, and I've given them a tick of approval so you can trust me, they get my gold star!

The second last sentence is pure rubbish, high quality disposable masks that perform far better than home made cloth have been a staple of the medical industry for about 30 years! The problem was when COVID hit there were groups and countries that resorted to stockpiling them!

[Baggers]

There is very little technical reason to push for Novavax if you already have AZ available, the technologies are so similar they could be considered almost identical with the choice of vector making very little difference. The general feedback from regions already using both AZ and Novavax is that the efficacy and side-effect profiles are effectively identical.

Novavax is to AZ, what Moderna is to Pfizer.

Really, the whole Novavax / AZ / Pfizer / Moderna debate is another case of social media spreading "Certain Uncertainty", the Interwebs version of asking someone who has finally made a decision, "ARE YOU SURE?"

FWIW, you can throw a whole bunch of other competing vaccines into this debate, the global differences are so minimal.

Absolutely.

As has been said... the best vaccine is the one that is readily available.

By the way, I had my 2nd AZ shot almost 2 weeks ago. No problemmo - sore injection site for about 3 days. Though when the microchip passed through the syringe into my arm it was a little painful.  ;D

[LP]

By the way, I had my 2nd AZ shot almost 2 weeks ago. No problemmo - sore injection site for about 3 days. Though when the microchip passed through the syringe into my arm it was a little painful.  ;D

Just make sure you get the shirt off and into plenty of natural sun, it's a new generation technology chip based on green energy so it is solar powered!

If you do not want to be tracked, stay inside in the deep dark dank dungeon for as long as possible, ........... or cut your arm off! Of course the chip is very very small, so it can migrate around the body, so you'll need to keep that in mind when deciding where that sun should be shining, or what to cut off!

On a serious note, the duress caused by all the published social media uncertainty is far far deadlier than any of the vaccines!

[kruddler]

Just make sure you get the shirt off and into plenty of natural sun, it's a new generation technology chip based on green energy so it is solar powered!

Of course if you do not want to be tracked, stay inside in the deep dark dank dungeon for as long as possible, ........... or cut your arm off!

Don't forget to live in a faraday cage.