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Seems you missed the admission by one of the great advocates of Invermectin, Dr Kory, that the Delta variant isn't responding to Invermectin. He concedes he's demoralised & frightened. But that's only because he sees what's happening to patients. Unburdened by this sort of observation, your confidence isn't dented at all.
The thing about vaccines is that they can be tweaked to respond to new variants or new vaccines can be formulated. But what can we do with Ivermectin? Is there an Ivermectin 2 or Ivermectin 3 waiting in the wings? Maybe we can mix it with bleach to clean the body of Covid ...
I'm looking forward to vaccine passports. I'll be able to go to the footy, pubs and restaurants again. No doubt there'll also be a vaccine passport for those who are protected by Ivermectin. It should give users access to free bales of hay, free gelding. and trips to the Middle East on live-cattle ships.
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Firstly, the risks of Ivermectin include oedema, tachycardia, myocarditis, pericarditis, seizures, coma and liver damage.
The recommended safe adult dose of Ivermectin for typical disease treatment scenarios is 12mg dose given at a +90 day interval, at that dose there are risks of significant side-effects including the oedema, tachycardia, myocarditis, pericarditis, seizures, coma and liver damage listed above.
Even at the normal dose, when you scale up to issue this medicine to millions of patients the rate of serious side effects is many many times the risk of side-effects from the Sars-CoV-2 vaccines.
FWIW, the normal Ivermectin dose is repeated at an interval of 3 to 12 months.
The India HCW Ivermectin study used the equivalent of 2 x 24mg doses of Ivermectin given just 3 days apart, a 400% higher dose in 1/10th the time, the increased risks of serious side-effects is enormous! Possibly killing as many people as untreated Sars-CoV-2 per million.
In the USA they are just starting to see people roll up to hospitals with serious disease resulting from the self-administration of Ivermectin, it's killing people or leaving them with long term disease as bad as or worse than if they had got COVID-19! On top of that, it offers them zero protection against Sars-CoV-2, so they are actually increasing the risks not reducing them.
Ignoring all those facts, the truth of the Ivermectin lie is in Sth America, where millions and millions of doses were issued at the hand of corrupt politicians and killed so many people from direct side effects, even ignoring that the Ivermectin did nothing to arrest the spread of Sars-CoV-2 and nothing to mitigate COVID-19 disease.
Now we have the Peru / Brazil Sars-CoV-2 variant emerging, probably aided by the false Ivermectin treatment regime.
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(09-01-2021, 07:02 AM)LP link Wrote:The recommended safe dose of Ivermectin for typical disease treatment scenarios is 12mg dose given at a +90 day interval, at that dose there are risks of significant side-effects including oedema leading to tachycardia, myocarditis, pericarditis, coma and or liver damage.
Even at the normal dose the rate of serious side effects is many many times the risk of side-effects from the vaccines. Fwiw, the normal dose is repeated at an interval of 3 to 12 months.
The India HCW Ivermectin study used the equivalent of 2 x 24mg doses of Ivermectin given just 3 days apart, the increased risks of serious side-effects is enormous! Probably killing as many people as untreated Sars-CoV-2 per million.
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BS LP.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-conte...NGLISH.pdf
Ivermectin has a remarkable safety profile.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/...570v1.full
You really do come across as a shill. You're just making stuff up again. Sadly.
Anyway, some common sense from one of the world's best biostatisticians....
https://rumble.com/vj8b4x-stanfords-dr.-...ative.html
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(09-01-2021, 06:49 AM)Mav link Wrote:Seems you missed the admission by one of the great advocates of Invermectin, Dr Kory, that the Delta variant isn't responding to Invermectin. He concedes he's demoralised & frightened. But that's only because he sees what's happening to patients. Unburdened by this sort of observation, your confidence isn't dented at all.
The thing about vaccines is that they can be tweaked to respond to new variants or new vaccines can be formulated. But what can we do with Ivermectin? Is there an Ivermectin 2 or Ivermectin 3 waiting in the wings? Maybe we can mix it with bleach to clean the body of Covid ...
I'm looking forward to vaccine passports. I'll be able to go to the footy, pubs and restaurants again. No doubt there'll also be a vaccine passport for those who are protected by Ivermectin. It should give users access to free bales of hay, free gelding. and trips to the Middle East on live-cattle ships.
Feel free to post where Kory has said this....
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(09-01-2021, 07:13 AM)flyboy77 date Wrote:Ivermectin has a remarkable safety profile. I suppose if you want to tweak the stats, and you kill all those people with Ivermectin, you can't have COVID-19 kill them as well, so win win for Merck shareholders! ;D
You obviously do not read what you link, or you have no comprehension of what you link because those studies support what I have posted.
The invitro anti-viral studies you linked were even 30% higher doses again than the India HCW trial and demonstrated no efficacy in patients.
The invitro trials did manage to kill some virus, as you would expect at that dose, I suppose the learning is that you can kill just about anything with anything given you administer enough of something. Probably take out a few livers and lungs as well! :o
My God, I've just realised what that means ................... Bring on the Beers! 
PS; Alcoholism is up during lockdown, so a double benefit of lockdown is increasing the beers and killing virus while restricting it's spread! Another win win! ;D
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Just in case you missed it the first time, Flyboy:
Quote:And as the delta variant continues to infect the nation, even Kory admits that ivermectin (the human kind) is no match for it, tweeting on Aug. 9, “I have experienced and am getting reports from FLCCC Alliance members that Delta variant patients crashing into ICU’s ... are not showing responses to MATH+. We are demoralized and frightened. Early treatment is CRITICAL. Every household should take I-MASK+ upon first symptoms.”
People Are Eating Horse Paste To Fight COVID. These Doctors Are One Reason Why, HuffPost.
Yeah, I know, he's been bought ...
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The safety profile of a drug is a function of the number of patients treated, for something used so sparingly in humans Ivermectin at it's normal dose is quite safe, about as deadly as general anaesthesia, but even general anaesthesia is far deadly than the vaccines per million patients.
The arguments for Ivermectin have no basis in fact or math, it's just become a pandemic meme.
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It's like winning Tattslotto when stories like this surface at an appropriate moment?
Quote:A Sydney COVID-19 patient has been treated in hospital for an overdose of the drug ivermectin and other underground “cures” ordered online.
The person is now recovering at home after presenting to Westmead Hospital’s emergency department with vomiting and diarrhoea caused by the drug, according to the Western Sydney Local Health district.
“Thankfully they didn’t develop severe toxicity, but it didn’t help their COVID either,” Westmead Hospital toxicologist Associate Professor Naren Gunja said.
We shouldn't really be surprised though, it's probably inevitable!
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Meanwhile the average punter is trapped at home, no job, bills racking up, while trapped in an endless loop of lock down with the end some nebulous date in the future. Couldn't even give us the decency of giving us a date. Over it. Give us something, anything
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(09-01-2021, 11:04 PM)Professer E date Wrote:Meanwhile the average punter is trapped at home, no job, bills racking up, while trapped in an endless loop of lock down with the end some nebulous date in the future. Couldn't even give us the decency of giving us a date. Over it. Give us something, anything I understand the frustration.
But when people ask that question it suggests they think the authorities know the answer, which contradicts all the accusations like "The government / health authorities don't know what they are doing!"
If they don't know what they are doing, it means they do not know the answer, so in effect that complaint is a request to be deceived!
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