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CV and mad panic behaviour
I think NB was suggesting that reducing “doom-scrolling” would help to reduce anxiety. Not a bad strategy.
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It's not just social media.

A great example of how the media flip to suit their revenue stream and demographic;
Take a look at Panahi has completely flipped on Gladys, even before Bolt, it's almost bordering on a form of malpractice! This screws around with vulnerable people, and excessively impacts people in the least likely frame of mind to think through the the details of what they read. It's reprehensible behaviour targeted at and worshipping the almighty dollar at the expense of society.
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(07-13-2021, 09:56 PM)LP link Wrote:I doubt it means anything but less.

That linked article gives you no baselines, you can't tell if it's a rise, fall or flat.

When the deaths are counted in the many hundreds, for a process that has a relative low completion rate, you aren't going to see a sudden statistical shift in the percentages. If only 1:10 attempts are successful, and my understanding is that is roughly the figure, and there is a drop in deaths by 40 or 50 doesn't that mean by association hundreds of less attempts?

The various groups debating working from office or home are telling us the bulk of employees are happier now they aren't in the office 5 days a week. One large organisation I deal with are telling me productivity is up, the only people unhappy, the ones losing out are the corporate psychopaths who have lost their overview of staff.

I'm not sure what to think, I accept it's way way more complex than our simple analysis can surmise, but the numbers do not lie.

I wanted to comment on your other, very well raised point and more significant than many folks realise - working from home, and more specifically, the greater than people believe, proliferation of 'corporate sociopaths' delivering misery to employees. The Spotted One, is... well... spot on.

A huge majority of employees have found that they love a flexibility of going into the office and working from home. And to address the highly manipulative argument from some 'bosses' that folks are less productive working from home - this is absolute bullshizen. A brilliant article from Harvard last year pointed out, conclusively, that better than 80% of folks are actually MORE productive working from home.

For these sociopaths/narcissists it is nothing more than them cracking it due to losing their control, their grip, their intimidation of employees. I've met a number of them, and confronted them over this - they hate it and get very angry, when presented with the facts of raised productivity when working from home.
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https://theconversation.com/federal-help...nts-164404
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Its also worth not trivialising the domestic violence figures.  I remember them state a over 200% increase in domestic violence episodes.

Thats not to condone the behaviour, or to state they are a direct result of lockdowns.

I know of quite a few relationships that were on the verge of breaking down, that the COVID situation caused the eventual break down, some that were strengthened in the face of adversity, and by the by, those that status quo remained.

The kids are going to be the ones we wont know how seriously or badly effected they were for quite some time and not just from the past 1.5 years, but the return to normality, and any PTSD they might suffer simply looking the world in the face.

By contrast it might effect them positively in ways we wont understand in terms of breeding resilience in generations that previously have not faced much adversity (in our society anyway).
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Gobsmacked, stunned, speechless... Rita P and Terry M (HUN opinion writers) have turned on Gladys and SloMo (Prime Minister of NSW).  :o  :o  :Smile  :-X
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(07-14-2021, 12:55 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Its also worth not trivialising the domestic violence figures.  I remember them state a over 200% increase in domestic violence episodes.

Thats not to condone the behaviour, or to state they are a direct result of lockdowns.

I know of quite a few relationships that were on the verge of breaking down, that the COVID situation caused the eventual break down, some that were strengthened in the face of adversity, and by the by, those that status quo remained.

The kids are going to be the ones we wont know how seriously or badly effected they were for quite some time and not just from the past 1.5 years, but the return to normality, and any PTSD they might suffer simply looking the world in the face.

By contrast it might effect them positively in ways we wont understand in terms of breeding resilience in generations that previously have not faced much adversity (in our society anyway).

Sorry, 3 Leos, but I have to pull you up on a little of what you say. I hope I haven't misread what you say... if so, I apologize.

1. That 200% rise in domestic violence is ONLY what is reported... let me assure you that the real figure is much higher. Similar to sexual abuse/violations/rape... much goes unreported. Why? Fear. Fear of retribution, fear of loss of somewhere to live, fear of livelihood, fear of stigma.

2. PTSD is not something that once you become resilient, it is healed or even reduced significantly or gone. PTSD, despite the shallow cures you might hear of, never goes, in fact it often worsens with age - it's about management. It is like a huge growling beast sitting on your shoulder for life. There are far, far better ways to become resilient than through suffering/trauma.

3. Perhaps the term PTSD is so bandied about these days that some of us are becoming immune to its horror/impact. Sheesh, some folks claim PTSD after what I would call 'minor' (but nonetheless traumatic) events - perhaps too easily diagnosed these days. If you lose a leg in a traumatic circumstance, you might very well become 'resilient' out of necessity... but you'll always walk with a limp.

Perhaps we'll meet up at a game one day and I'll communicate to you in person what happened to me. Or you can talk openly with another war vet, ambo person, police person, nurse, doc etc... who has PTSD and you'll learn it is a huge life changer in so many respects.
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(07-14-2021, 01:30 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Sorry, 3 Leos, but I have to pull you up on a little of what you say. I hope I haven't misread what you say... if so, I apologize.

1. That 200% rise in domestic violence is ONLY what is reported... let me assure you that the real figure is much higher. Similar to sexual abuse/violations/rape... much goes unreported. Why? Fear. Fear of retribution, fear of loss of somewhere to live, fear of livelihood, fear of stigma.

2. PTSD is not something that once you become resilient, it is healed or even reduced significantly or gone. PTSD, despite the shallow cures you might hear of, never goes, in fact it often worsens with age - it's about management. It is like a huge growling beast sitting on your shoulder for life. There are far, far better ways to become resilient than through suffering/trauma.

3. Perhaps the term PTSD is so bandied about these days that some of us are becoming immune to its horror/impact. Sheesh, some folks claim PTSD after what I would call 'minor' (but nonetheless traumatic) events - perhaps too easily diagnosed these days. If you lose a leg in a traumatic circumstance, you might very well become 'resilient' out of necessity... but you'll always walk with a limp.

Perhaps we'll meet up at a game one day and I'll communicate to you in person what happened to me. Or you can talk openly with another war vet, ambo person, police person, nurse, doc etc... who has PTSD and you'll learn it is a huge life changer in so many respects.

I just had a quick read, and I either haven't articulated myself correctly, or you have misread what I have tried to state (probably a bit of both).

Either way, call it a miscommunication, because we largely agree.

Ill try and clarify.

1.  Domestic Violence has increased as a result of the COVID situations, and simply people being locked in together for long periods of time, rightly, wrongly, reported or otherwise.  The figure I quoted was a remembered number off the news, and how it applies to the landscape is not to be trivialised and any inability for me to remember this is my error, not what is reported, or how the episodes play out (not all domestic violence is reported as an example).  The 200% increase would be the confirmed calls to help, but even my percentage is a quote from memory and therefore, a number to accentuate how big a rise it is, rather than factual quoting.

2.  I wasn't trying to link, PTSD and resilience.  The resilience I was mentioning was more about Gen Snowflake, and how they need everything done for them, or have been produced as a result of helicopter parenting, where the kids are so dependant on things being provided to them, they have no concept of how to self entertain, or cope with their feelings properly.

3.  The youth growing up with the spectre of COVID, and lockdowns hanging over their shoulder, are going to have elements of PTSD regarding this situation.  This was where I was trying to head when I mentioned PTSD.

My final summation was a mixed bag of things, that I probably could have articulated better.

No need to explain more in person about what occurred, I think we have messaged privately, and I have nothing but respect for everyone else and empathy with any of their situations, and just consider anything written an error of communication than anything else.
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(07-14-2021, 01:11 AM)Baggers date Wrote:Gobsmacked, stunned, speechless... Rita P and Terry M (HUN opinion writers) have turned on Gladys and SloMo (Prime Minister of NSW).  :o  :o  :Smile  :-X
Merchants of misery, pain for profit.

They would do well in the S&M industry.
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97 new cases in NSW and the lockdown has been extended by 2 weeks. Some public health officials are calling for a lockdown that’s harsher than Victoria’s as the Delta variant is more transmissible, otherwise new cases will just stabilise.

The Liberal opposition have lost their biggest weapon: pointing to NSW to show “Dictator Dan” didn’t need to lock down as he did. They can still argue this, of course, but it ends up a bit like the “What have the Romans ever done for us?” skit. They’ve gone from a black and white issue to a very gray one. Instead they might choose to attack him for not locking down harder and more quickly even if that would be hypocritical given their trenchant criticism of lockdowns and restrictions. Of course, they may well argue both even if they are mutually exclusive, especially if they can micro-target different audiences.
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