CV and mad panic behaviour

[Thryleon]

My daughter is a health care worker and she has had to test three times (so far) and stay away from work until she got negative results.

So let me change that to "at my organisation".

Is that 3 times in 1.5 years DJC?

I can tell you I too have had testing twice in 1.5 years both times because I was symptomatic.

[DJC]

So let me change that to "at my organisation".

Is that 3 times in 1.5 years DJC?

I can tell you I too have had testing twice in 1.5 years both times because I was symptomatic.

Yes, in 1.5 years Thry.

I haven't had a test because I haven't had a sniffle since the pandemic started ... and I've probably just put the mockers on myself  :

[LP]

No matter how bad people think it is under lockdowns, it will eventually be many many times worse under no restrictions at all while we have such low vaccination rates.

Sooner or later those countries with no restrictions get into such bad pandemic situation's they are forced towards even stronger archaic limits on freedom than we have experienced here in Australia.

It's completely ridiculous to think the alternatives are somehow better, because it's an inevitability that it goes bad not just a chance it might.

I have to laugh that many complaining about lockdowns also argue against vaccines, how ironic that they protest against the only true economically viable and fastest way out of the regular lockdowns, vaccines. It makes me think they are disingenuous!

[PaulP]

LP, I agree. If folks want lockdowns to be a thing of the past, then everybody needs to get vaccinated.

[LP]

LP, I agree. If folks want lockdowns to be a thing of the past, then everybody needs to get vaccinated.

I feel sorry for them @PaulP, I see the pain first-hand across many businesses and industries, but at the end of the day what they spruik as some sort of totalitarian regime is not much at all.

Not even as oppressive as the war time restrictions our parents or grand-parents suffered. Those generations would surely laugh at our 1st world complaints, then they would get on with what needs to be done to get through it, but they had a perspective of sacrifice as opposed to privilege!

If getting a $10 and 2 second sting in your arm once or twice in a couple of months is all you have to endure to be able to head out and earn a crust to buy yourself a nice steak dinner, life isn't so bad!

[LP]

I often wonder how the News Ltd right leaning boosters reconcile the information they tout and scavenge from News Ltd rags, many times the stories are perspectives of an Andrew Bolt or a Rita Panahi, using questionable sources of information and opinion. We cynics are told they are on the money, and that we who pursue vaccinations and restrictions are the real naivé, 5G and all that other harmful stuff!

Then News Ltd goes and publishes a story like this,

More men with Covid have erectile dysfunction

Doctors want more studies done to look at the suspected links between Covid-19 and erectile dysfunction as cases rise among men.

News Ltd spent weeks telling you COVID is a con, long COVID a myth, vaccines are death, and lockdowns are about political control, and now they tell you that if you get COVID it's going to be boners begone!

[Mav]

I feel sorry for them @PaulP, I see the pain first-hand across many businesses and industries, but at the end of the day what they spruik as some sort of totalitarian regime is not much at all.

Not even as oppressive as the war time restrictions our parents or grand-parents suffered. Those generations would surely laugh at our 1st world complaints, then they would get on with what needs to be done to get through it, but they had a perspective of sacrifice as opposed to privilege!

If getting a $10 and 2 second sting in your arm once or twice in a couple of months is all you have to endure to be able to head out and earn a crust to buy yourself a nice steak dinner, life isn't so bad!

Yep. If you flip the script, conservative heads would explode:

1. Individuals have the right to refuse government mandates where they conclude their health may be at risk, no matter how the community might benefit.
   
2. The Government can’t penalise the individual even if the individual benefits from a free ride on the sacrifice of others.
   
3. The biggest threat to a person’s health that can be imposed on the individual by the government is to draft that individual and send him or her into combat.
   
4. An individual should therefore have the right to refuse combat duties.
   
5. Individuals who are already part of the armed forces should also have the right to refuse to fight given that many who volunteered did so for economic reasons.
   

I can just see the freedom-loving right-wingers fighting for those freedoms ...

[Baggers]

Yep. If you flip the script, conservative heads would explode:

1. Individuals have the right to refuse government mandates where they conclude their health may be at risk, no matter how the community might benefit.
   
2. The Government can’t penalise the individual even if the individual benefits from a free ride on the sacrifice of others.
   
3. The biggest threat to a person’s health that can be imposed on the individual by the government is to draft that individual and send him or her into combat.
   
4. An individual should therefore have the right to refuse combat duties.
   
5. Individuals who are already part of the armed forces should also have the right to refuse to fight given that many who volunteered did so for economic reasons.
   

I can just see the freedom-loving right-wingers fighting for those freedoms ...

Aint that the truth. Remember Malcolm Moore interviewing Republican Senators, during their pro 'go get 'em' strategies for the Middle East wars, if their sons and daughters were being sent to fight? Crickets and tumbleweeds.

[Baggers]

LP, I agree. If folks want lockdowns to be a thing of the past, then everybody needs to get vaccinated.

Ditto, Pauly.

I had two chief motivators to getting 'the jab.' 1) Good old Aussie team spirit - all in together to help/support each other in getting this pandemic under control/more manageable  & less threatening to all our lives & 2) To lessen my chances of a potentially severe reaction to C19.

[Mav]

Aint that the truth. Remember Malcolm Moore interviewing Republican Senators, during their pro 'go get 'em' strategies for the Middle East wars, if their sons and daughters were being sent to fight? Crickets and tumbleweeds.

Drafts are actually a pretty good way of forcing politicians to confront the possibility of losing loved ones when deciding whether to go to war. If your only son might be drafted and killed, maybe you’ll be less gung-ho about going to war. And the sort of protests that erupted when the draft was used in the Vietnam War is feared.

But that’s only the case when the draft can’t be dodged by the rich and powerful and as we know that’s not the way it works. Trump’s Daddy somehow managed to get a doctor to certify that little Donnie was unfit to serve in Vietnam because of heel spurs. Donnie claimed afterwards they just disappeared on their own even though that’s medically impossible. George Dubya was drafted but his Daddy managed to ensure he saw out his service stateside in the national guard. I’d imagine a lot of draftees who ended up in cushy posts sitting behind a desk had connections.

In Australia, IIRC uni students could defer being drafted and back then uni students paid full fees unless they had scholarships. The rich were well-placed to ensure their dim witted progeny could enrol in someuni course.

The US Supreme Court was recently asked to rule that drafts should apply to both males and females but refused to do so. I’d imagine conservatives weren’t happy with the optics of a High School Prom Queen coming back from a war minus a leg or otherwise disfigured.

During the Gulf Wars, the US was able to avoid a draft by mobilising reservists and former military personnel. Those poor bastards were often from disadvantaged backgrounds and had only been lured into joining to gain access to lower cost education and the like.